Mike,
I do not know the number and locations of the zones outside of secondary
checkpoints. I have searched in vain for a map or list of checkpoint locations.
I suspect that the feds would rather keep folks guessing. There are some in
California, and there has been much complaining that they impede the commute
into San Diego from some of its exurbs.
Lowell G. McManus
Leesville, Louisiana, USA
----- Original Message -----
From: "acroorca2002" <orc@...>
To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:06 PM
Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: customs exclaves in the usa
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
> <mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> > Although I'm as close to Mike's contraband as I want to be, I still
> appreciate
> > the generous spirit of his invitation (I guess).
>
> hahahahaha
> thats a funny way to put it
> & you are correct to guess both the invite & the spirit are real
> so how could your appreciation not also be
>
> > As one who owns property in and plans eventually to reside within
> one of these
> > frontier zones, I'd like to add some perspective here.
>
> first
> do you agree there are 3 & only 3 sniffer exclaves
>
> that was really my try & point of inquiry
>
> of course you are right about the chokepoints
>
> & thats why it must boil down to a simple matter of topology
>
> so how many claves & what are their true shapes is really the main
> course here
>
> & my exquisitely delicious personal situation is just desserts
>
> your other info is great to have while here too tho
>
>
> i have also found the rio here as little as 5 paces wide
> & nowhere even ankle deep
> so i expect the chnmtx retry will go well
> provided we dont have to flee again
>
> also just the sound of the also mentioned doelot tripoint & its safe
> looking location have been even more inviting to my imagination
>
> but i hope some company will arrive for these tries
> even if not you yourself lowell
>
> also i am finding the conditions increasingly agreeable as i get to
> learn the place
> & i havent even ventured far beyond las cruces yet
> tho i realize the territory of my clave is much more extensive
>
> what i am really looking for first tho is unlimited free internet
>
> that will make being here a complete & utter delight
> for then i could rejoin you all at bp in strength again
> rather than in just these mad dashes thru the crazy library system
> they have here
> practically at ground zero of the cross
>
> but more on this later if possible
>
>
>
> > When I used to return from the border at Eagle Pass, Texas (near
> which my
> > property is located), the Border Patrol's secondary highway
> checkpoint (just
> > southwest of the junction of US 57 and FM 481 about 12 miles
> northeast of Eagle
> > Pass) was more often closed than not. When it was open, the
> minimal staff was
> > looking only for illegal immigrants. They were Border Patrol,
> after all, not
> > Customs. They would just wave you through if you looked halfway
> blond and
> > didn't have any passengers obviously trying to hide. That all
> changed after
> > 9/11. Now the Border Patrol is part of the Bureau of Customs and
> Border
> > Protection's "One Face at the Border." The checkpoint is always
> open, and the
> > staff is human, canine, and videocam. Each person is quizzed on
> U.S.
> > nationality or immigration status, destination, and purpose of
> trip, just as is
> > done at the U.S. Border Stations at the end of the international
> bridges. These
> > secondary checkpoints are legally considered functional equivalents
> of the
> > border. Thus the agents have authority to search without warrant
> and
> > interrogate under oath (so say the Supremes). Be advised that the
> Bureau also
> > has authority to throw up impromptu mobile checkpoints anywhere
> within a
> > reasonable distance of the border.
> >
> > If one leaves Eagle Pass northward on US 277, then takes Texas 131
> north, and
> > then goes eastward on US 90, no Border Patrol checkpoint is
> encountered until
> > somewhere near Uvalde on US 90. I don't remember the exact
> location. In any
> > case, the fuzzy zone between the boundary and the secondary
> inspections widens
> > out considerably above Eagle Pass, as it does in the area downriver
> from Laredo.
> > There are no checkpoints between Eagle Pass and Del Rio. I'm sure
> the locations
> > of the secondary checkpoints is dictated by the chokepoints in the
> highway
> > infrastructure.
> >
> > Lowell G. McManus
> > Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "acroorca2002" <orc@o...>
> > To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 11:57 AM
> > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] customs exclaves in the usa
> >
> >
> > > well you can forget about that marijuana passport idea since new
> > > mexico has no legal medical marijuana
> > > hahaha
> > > & it appears the las cruces el paso domestic customs exclave i am
> > > currently in is one of at least 3 i have finally fully sniffed out
> > >
> > > tho there could be more
> > >
> > > the second of these cuts off the big bend
> > > & the third one cuts off the southernmost tip of texas
> > > from north of laredo but south of hebbronville & falfurrias etc
> > >
> > > so all 3 of the loveliest protuberances of texas get cut off
> > > & lowest new mexico gets circumcised too along with the
> westernmost
> > > nose of texas
> > >
> > > so yes thats a divided customs exclave in this apparently unique
> case
> > > of nmtx
> > >
> > > & texas has no medical marijuana either btw
> > >
> > > so basically that whole idea is caput & complete for now
> > > except maybe i will give governor bill richardson a call
> > > if he is still governor
> > > as he is a famous proponent of legalizing all marijuana
> > > & might enjoy the unique opportunity of getting involved in such a
> > > stunt
> > > for all i could imagine
> > >
> > >
> > > in the meantime i have recovered the geocache
> > > yikes
> > > & good thing i didnt waste time giving its location
> > > since i realized all dogs can sniff dope & many love to eat it too
> > > not just customs service dogs
> > > & so i will be recommitting the stash to an indoor location safe
> from
> > > all dogs
> > > & still accessible 7 days a week except major holidays
> > > about which more later too
> > >
> > >
> > > but basically i have been smoking the stuff as fast as i can &
> still
> > > cant imagine finishing it all at this rate before spring unless
> some
> > > of you get down here to help me consume it
> > > because we will probably never get it out of here
> > > hahaha
> > > but could have a great time using it up
> > >
> > > & i know there are at least half a dozen of you within overnight
> > > arrival range
> > > so what are you waiting for
> > >
> > > & remember we get to be in el paso too
> > > not just las cruces
> > >
> > > so i can & we could retry the chnmtx tristate point
> > > where i had to settle for a class c visit last year
> > > before taking flight
> > >
> > > maybe the rio will even be bone dry this time
> > >
> > > it nearly was last time
> > >
> > > or theres even an interstate tricounty point here in my little
> clave
> > > we could explore one day
> > > where dona ana & otero counties of nm meet el paso county tx
> > >
> > > well anyway thats just for starters
> > >
> > > the place is quite civilized too
> > >
> > > so i hope many will come to play cheech &or chong with me
> > > & sooner than later
> > > but there is in fact probably no hurry at all
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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