ok thanx for the try
& of course i am referring only to the permanent checkpoint locations
since i do know full well about the extra spot search jeopardy etc
etc etc anywhere within 100 miles of caus or especially mxus
but you understand
my interest comprehends the number & shapes of only the permanent
sniffer claves
rather than those that may casually appear & disappear in the course
of scrambling the dogs about
& i am in fact particularly interested in learning the shape of the
permanent clave in which i find myself at this time
hahahahaha
i believe i have 4 of the probably 6 or 7 chokepoints down pat already
but naturally i would like to know the fullest possible truth
particularly in this specific area
for i have a feeling that planting & retrieving a stash somewhere
around a secondary chokepoint might be a lot easier & likelier than
trying the same maneuver at say a border post located right on the
mxus line anywhere under all that concentrated glare
& outside of that investigation & the few potential try pointing
diversions i have already mentioned
i really have nothing to do but carefully review all the bp messages
that have accumulated since i left cream hill about a month ago
many of which really have deserved far more attention than i have
been able to give them til now
--- In
BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
<mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> Mike,
>
> I do not know the number and locations of the zones outside of
secondary
> checkpoints. I have searched in vain for a map or list of
checkpoint locations.
> I suspect that the feds would rather keep folks guessing. There
are some in
> California, and there has been much complaining that they impede
the commute
> into San Diego from some of its exurbs.
>
> Lowell G. McManus
> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "acroorca2002" <orc@o...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:06 PM
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: customs exclaves in the usa
>
>
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
> > <mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> > > Although I'm as close to Mike's contraband as I want to be, I
still
> > appreciate
> > > the generous spirit of his invitation (I guess).
> >
> > hahahahaha
> > thats a funny way to put it
> > & you are correct to guess both the invite & the spirit are real
> > so how could your appreciation not also be
> >
> > > As one who owns property in and plans eventually to reside
within
> > one of these
> > > frontier zones, I'd like to add some perspective here.
> >
> > first
> > do you agree there are 3 & only 3 sniffer exclaves
> >
> > that was really my try & point of inquiry
> >
> > of course you are right about the chokepoints
> >
> > & thats why it must boil down to a simple matter of topology
> >
> > so how many claves & what are their true shapes is really the main
> > course here
> >
> > & my exquisitely delicious personal situation is just desserts
> >
> > your other info is great to have while here too tho
> >
> >
> > i have also found the rio here as little as 5 paces wide
> > & nowhere even ankle deep
> > so i expect the chnmtx retry will go well
> > provided we dont have to flee again
> >
> > also just the sound of the also mentioned doelot tripoint & its
safe
> > looking location have been even more inviting to my imagination
> >
> > but i hope some company will arrive for these tries
> > even if not you yourself lowell
> >
> > also i am finding the conditions increasingly agreeable as i get
to
> > learn the place
> > & i havent even ventured far beyond las cruces yet
> > tho i realize the territory of my clave is much more extensive
> >
> > what i am really looking for first tho is unlimited free internet
> >
> > that will make being here a complete & utter delight
> > for then i could rejoin you all at bp in strength again
> > rather than in just these mad dashes thru the crazy library system
> > they have here
> > practically at ground zero of the cross
> >
> > but more on this later if possible
> >
> >
> >
> > > When I used to return from the border at Eagle Pass, Texas (near
> > which my
> > > property is located), the Border Patrol's secondary highway
> > checkpoint (just
> > > southwest of the junction of US 57 and FM 481 about 12 miles
> > northeast of Eagle
> > > Pass) was more often closed than not. When it was open, the
> > minimal staff was
> > > looking only for illegal immigrants. They were Border Patrol,
> > after all, not
> > > Customs. They would just wave you through if you looked halfway
> > blond and
> > > didn't have any passengers obviously trying to hide. That all
> > changed after
> > > 9/11. Now the Border Patrol is part of the Bureau of Customs
and
> > Border
> > > Protection's "One Face at the Border." The checkpoint is always
> > open, and the
> > > staff is human, canine, and videocam. Each person is quizzed on
> > U.S.
> > > nationality or immigration status, destination, and purpose of
> > trip, just as is
> > > done at the U.S. Border Stations at the end of the international
> > bridges. These
> > > secondary checkpoints are legally considered functional
equivalents
> > of the
> > > border. Thus the agents have authority to search without
warrant
> > and
> > > interrogate under oath (so say the Supremes). Be advised that
the
> > Bureau also
> > > has authority to throw up impromptu mobile checkpoints anywhere
> > within a
> > > reasonable distance of the border.
> > >
> > > If one leaves Eagle Pass northward on US 277, then takes Texas
131
> > north, and
> > > then goes eastward on US 90, no Border Patrol checkpoint is
> > encountered until
> > > somewhere near Uvalde on US 90. I don't remember the exact
> > location. In any
> > > case, the fuzzy zone between the boundary and the secondary
> > inspections widens
> > > out considerably above Eagle Pass, as it does in the area
downriver
> > from Laredo.
> > > There are no checkpoints between Eagle Pass and Del Rio. I'm
sure
> > the locations
> > > of the secondary checkpoints is dictated by the chokepoints in
the
> > highway
> > > infrastructure.
> > >
> > > Lowell G. McManus
> > > Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "acroorca2002" <orc@o...>
> > > To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 11:57 AM
> > > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] customs exclaves in the usa
> > >
> > >
> > > > well you can forget about that marijuana passport idea since
new
> > > > mexico has no legal medical marijuana
> > > > hahaha
> > > > & it appears the las cruces el paso domestic customs exclave
i am
> > > > currently in is one of at least 3 i have finally fully
sniffed out
> > > >
> > > > tho there could be more
> > > >
> > > > the second of these cuts off the big bend
> > > > & the third one cuts off the southernmost tip of texas
> > > > from north of laredo but south of hebbronville & falfurrias
etc
> > > >
> > > > so all 3 of the loveliest protuberances of texas get cut off
> > > > & lowest new mexico gets circumcised too along with the
> > westernmost
> > > > nose of texas
> > > >
> > > > so yes thats a divided customs exclave in this apparently
unique
> > case
> > > > of nmtx
> > > >
> > > > & texas has no medical marijuana either btw
> > > >
> > > > so basically that whole idea is caput & complete for now
> > > > except maybe i will give governor bill richardson a call
> > > > if he is still governor
> > > > as he is a famous proponent of legalizing all marijuana
> > > > & might enjoy the unique opportunity of getting involved in
such a
> > > > stunt
> > > > for all i could imagine
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > in the meantime i have recovered the geocache
> > > > yikes
> > > > & good thing i didnt waste time giving its location
> > > > since i realized all dogs can sniff dope & many love to eat
it too
> > > > not just customs service dogs
> > > > & so i will be recommitting the stash to an indoor location
safe
> > from
> > > > all dogs
> > > > & still accessible 7 days a week except major holidays
> > > > about which more later too
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > but basically i have been smoking the stuff as fast as i can &
> > still
> > > > cant imagine finishing it all at this rate before spring
unless
> > some
> > > > of you get down here to help me consume it
> > > > because we will probably never get it out of here
> > > > hahaha
> > > > but could have a great time using it up
> > > >
> > > > & i know there are at least half a dozen of you within
overnight
> > > > arrival range
> > > > so what are you waiting for
> > > >
> > > > & remember we get to be in el paso too
> > > > not just las cruces
> > > >
> > > > so i can & we could retry the chnmtx tristate point
> > > > where i had to settle for a class c visit last year
> > > > before taking flight
> > > >
> > > > maybe the rio will even be bone dry this time
> > > >
> > > > it nearly was last time
> > > >
> > > > or theres even an interstate tricounty point here in my little
> > clave
> > > > we could explore one day
> > > > where dona ana & otero counties of nm meet el paso county tx
> > > >
> > > > well anyway thats just for starters
> > > >
> > > > the place is quite civilized too
> > > >
> > > > so i hope many will come to play cheech &or chong with me
> > > > & sooner than later
> > > > but there is in fact probably no hurry at all
> > > >
> > > >
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