ahh well now on further reflection i think this was not correct
& that we actually have a virgin tripoint position here
for since ok now reaches the right bank oktx line
& ar reaches the extant aroktx position in the river
the missing wet stitch must be of arok & not of oktx
so aroktx moves out of the river & onto the right bank
still extralegally but i think unavoidably now
& in that case it is very probably where the prolongation of the
deviant terminal segment you mention below intersects the right bank
veggie line
wow
this calls for a revisit
& permits an upgrade from the present best visit of class c
to a class b or a
& bravos to us for finally figuring this out
--- In
BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
<mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> You are correct that the compact's OKTX does require a lurch or
stitch to reach
> the AROKTX tripoint, but I would argue the matter this way:
>
> The southern terminus of the AROK boundary was always subject to
movement
> northward and southward (nominally) as the vicissitudes of the
south bank of the
> Red River required. When the compact took effect, the
existing "approximate"
> OKTX moved slightly southward to the vegetation line. I would
conclude that the
> practical effect is that the "stitch" from the vegetation line to
the tripoint
> would have to align with the accepted AROK boundary (nominally
north-south, but
> slightly deviant nevertheless). This is the only interpretation
that would make
> any practical sense in the event of any future adoption of a
similar vegetation
> line boundary by compact between Arkansas and Texas.
>
> Lowell G. McManus
> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "acroorca2002" <orc@o...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:04 AM
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Oklahoma / Texas Border - River Borders
>
>
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
> > <mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> > > Yes! The compact sends cartographers back to the drawing boards
> > with their
> > > erasers in hand. A well-trained monkey could now find the OKTX
> > boundary on a
> > > current aerial photo!
> >
> > & i hope you will train him to take short cuts
> > or he might never finish his job
> >
> > but we have been here before
> > perhaps before your time
> >
> > i think the key bp point tho is that the new oktx regime is
> > fundamentally different from the unchanged artx regime
> > tho they appear on the outdated topos to be the same regime
> > in following a series of vegetation lines that have not existed
since
> > the time of the first border freezing avulsions shortly after
texas
> > statehood
> >
> > there is not even any lurch at the aroktx tripoint on these maps
> >
> > but since the new oktx pact
> > there actually is a lurch & an extralegal stitch of oktx
> > which they evidently never thought of when framing the compact
> > tho they thought of everything else
> >
> > the exact dry oktxe point on the vegetation line
> > & the path by which oktx travels its wet yes wet terminal stitch
> > to meet the unchanged wet aroktx tripoint within the active river
bed
> > as still correctly depicted at topozone
> > are not precisely stated in the new compact
> >
> > & these can only be presumed to be one of several nearly identical
> > but actually distinct alternative points & paths
> >
> > in reality there is a little hole in oktx here
> > & it is especially interesting because it subjoins the tristate
point
> >
> > >
> > > The compact says that the implementation and future evolution of
> > the vegetation
> > > line boundary will never affect the ownership of property or of
> > tribal
> > > sovereignty in either state. Each state will recognize land
titles
> > that are
> > > legal under the laws of the other. Property taxes for each
given
> > year will be
> > > owed to whichever jurisdiction contains the property or whatever
> > portion of it
> > > on January 1.
> > >
> > > Interestingly, the compact had the general support of landowners
> > because it
> > > brought some sanity to their lives for the first time! Before
this
> > compact, the
> > > Red River segment of OKTX was the sorriest excuse for a state
> > boundary in the
> > > country.
> > >
> > > Lowell G. McManus
> > > Leesville, Louisiana, USA