nice points & nicely pointed out
& fashionably late arriving in my mailbox too
er
dont you think this oral de jure yell you have so clearly
demonstrated should be enshrined in our photos section too
--- In
BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
<mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> Attached is a scan of the area in question from THE ROADS
OF ARKANSAS atlas.
>
> I have added two yellow arrows (at lower left and upper right) to
indicate the
> points where the wandering de jure boundary and the stepped
de facto boundary
> diverge at each end. Note the three instances of red text that
identify the
> stepped boundary as "County line as agreed upon for tax
collection purposes."
> The grid is composed of section lines, one mile apart.
>
> Lowell G. McManus
> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "acroorca2002" <orc@o...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 7:58 PM
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: ozark county govt just yells up
from the next
> holler
>
>
> > ahh right you are of course
> > for this to have been at all remarkable the government had to
yell
> > up from the next holler over
> > & not from the same holler at all
> > & i am very glad & grateful someone is even paying attention
too
> > but despite having my lines crossed or especially because of
it
> > i am all the more titillated to think of this handshake line as
oral
> > de jure
> >
> > it would be nice to know exactly how long it has been this way
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G.
McManus"
> > <mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> > > Mike,
> > >
> > > If I understand you correctly, I think that you have the lines
> > reversed. The
> > > stepped boundary is the oral de facto line, while the de jure
> > line wanders
> > > through the mountains to the northwest. As the newspaper
> > article puts it: "The
> > > mountain ridges that form the legal boundary are just
> > northwest of the accepted
> > > Yell-Logan county line that appears on current state maps
as a
> > jagged series of
> > > steps." The stepped boundary shown on the topo maps is
the
> > accepted de facto
> > > boundary.
> > >
> > > I have an atlas called THE ROADS OF ARKANSAS from
> > Shearer Publishing. It
> > > depicts the entire state at a scale of one-half inch to the
mile. It
> > shows both
> > > boundaries. The wandering boundary to the northwest is
> > unlabeled, but the
> > > stepped one to the southeast has notes in three paces that
> > say "County line as
> > > agreed upon for tax collection purposes." I have been
through
> > the area on
> > > Arkansas 309, and the highway county-line signs are on
the
> > stepped agreed-upon
> > > boundary.
> > >
> > > I'll try to scan and post part of the map, if I can make the file
> > small enough
> > > and still retain legibility.
> > >
> > > Lowell G. McManus
> > > Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "m donner" <maxivan82@h...>
> > > To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 11:58 AM
> > > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] ozark county govt just yells up
from
> > the next holler
> > >
> > >
> > > > talk about no government
> > > > in the news today
> > > >
> >
http://www.nwanews.com/adg/story_National.php?storyid=3988
> > 4
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
http://topozone.com/map.asp?z=15&n=3896587&e=454697&s=
> > 1000&layer=DRG250&size=l&u=0
> > > > shows the general location of the mentioned de jure
logan
> > yell county line
> > > > between its tripoints with pope & scott counties at upper
right
> > & lower left
> > > > respectively
> > > > see i showed & even mentioned them
> > > > but the specific location of all the fun is at center including
the
> > place
> > > > named crossroads
> > > > where the letter f in ozark national forest is just west of
the
> > written de
> > > > jure boundary between logan & yell counties as depicted
> > > > but east of the orally agreed & long established de facto
> > boundary along the
> > > > ridge line mentioned in the article
> > > >
> > > > the area of overlapping or nongovernment can be seen
up
> > close here
> > > > between the huckleberry mountain watershed divide
running
> > from lower left to
> > > > upper right
> > > > & the county line as depicted at some remove from it at
lower
> > right
> > > >
> > >
> >
http://topozone.com/map.asp?z=15&n=3896587&e=454697&s=
> > 100&layer=DRG25&size=l&u=0
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > but here is a question
> > > >
> > > > since an oral agreement is just as real & binding as a
written
> > one
> > > > then isnt this supposedly de facto line really just as de
jure
> > as the
> > > > written one
> > > >
> > > > & being more recent than the written one yet still in long
use
> > > > doesnt the oral line actually trump & supplant the written
one
> > in this
> > > > unusual case
> > > >
> > > > & of course now that this so called anomaly has come to
> > light
> > > > they will probably amend the state constitution & the
county
> > charters
> > > > posthaste
> > > > to properly reflect reality
> > > > but in the meantime arent we really looking here at a
> > preciously rare if not
> > > > unique case of an oral de jure boundary
> > > >
> > > >
> >
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