Whenever I go, I will remember to take measurement tools as you suggest. As I
recall, the tree is a sweet gum (Liquidamber styraciflua), perhaps the sappiest
of trees!
Lowell G. McManus
Leesville, Louisiana, USA
----- Original Message -----
From: "acroorca2002" <orc@...>
To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 11:45 PM
Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: More on LATX bi-state building
well our persimmons & papaws are no sappier than our latex
but unless our rock of arlatx has itself begun to stretch or lean at
all in any direction from off of the true vertical
then i am inclined to believe the tree has so far merely grown &
stretched itself around the rock rather than displaced it at all
because it is hard to imagine a tree being so careful or lucky as
to produce a perfectly even biaxial displacement of the rock
all along its full depth & height of probably 4 or 5 feet
so i wish you would get an extra careful reading on it
say with a square & level & protractor unless you have better stuff
& i will certainly be looking forward to your visit
while trying to figure out how to calculate the horizontal
displacement of its apex from the angle of its dilapidation
so as to work our way back into the tree to the original & true
tripoint position if necessary
& perhaps it will yet prove to be our first truly sappy tripoint
--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
<mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> Oh yes, I've heard those sappy, romanticized fairy tales about
those [sometimes
> blond!] Indian princes, but I tend to reach for my wallet
whenever I do. Don't
> believe it!
>
> As for the arlatx trifinium, I haven't been there in many years;
but even then
> it seemed to me that the monument had been displaced
southward by the growing
> tree, and that the actual junction of the boundaries was
perhaps within the
> tree's trunk. I hope to be up that way by some time this fall, and
I will
> render a full report with photography.
>
> Lowell G. McManus
> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "m06079" <barbaria_longa@h...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 9:04 AM
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: More on LATX bi-state building
>
>
> for a report of a latx based paleodoches
> & a sense of the full latx based multidoches stretch
> please see
> http://members.tripod.com/~MWerb_2/CC020301.htm
> about a third of the way down
> beginning with nacogdoches in boldface
>
> also in the neighborhood tho
> for anyone who doesnt want to stretch our multipointing theme
> is our remarkable latex arlatx tristate point
> whose monument looks like it is being slowly devoured by a
tree
> tho not an actual rubber tree
> when i compare jacks 1991 shot of it with my own circa 1998
>
> so
> since i have been meaning to ask anyway
> & without necessarily stretching or changing anything
> have you or anyone else happened to look in on this baby lately
> & how much of the rock if any is still exposed to the light of day
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
> <mcmanus71496@m...> wrote:
> > It was asked:
> >
> > > is it true that latex was invented on this state line
> > > or was that a stretch
> > >
> > > say for just anything comfortably between
> > > oh say
> > > natchitoches & nacogdoches
> > >
> > > & is it true these are just 2 differently mangled versions of a
> > > single fabulous precolonial indian town
> > > actually located perhaps somewhere in between them
> >
> > Answer to first question: No. That was a stretch!
> >
> > Answer to second question: Maybe. The two towns, 108
miles
> apart, have much in
> > common.
> >
> > Natchitoches is the oldest existing European settlement in
the
> Louisiana
> > Purchase. It was founded in 1714 by the Frenchman Louis
> Juchereau de St. Denis
> > as the Poste St. Jean Baptiste des Natchitoches. The name
> was either the name
> > of the local Indians or a place name used by the local
Indians,
> who were of
> > Caddoan stock.
> >
> > Nacogdoches is the oldest existing European settlement in
> Texas. It was founded
> > in 1716 by the Spaniard Domingo Ramón as the Misión de
> Nuestra Señora de
> > Guadalupe de los Nacogdoches. The name was that of the
> local Indians, who were
> > of Caddoan stock.
> >
> > The Frenchman St. Denis shuttled back and forth between
the
> French and Spanish
> > colonies and between the employ of the French and Spanish
> governments. In
> > reality, he was operating trade for his private benefit. St.
Denis
> was closely
> > associated with the Ramón family, and his wife was either a
> step niece or half
> > niece to Domingo Ramón. St. Denis was present at
Ramón's
> founding of
> > Nacogdoches, two years after he had, himself, founded
> Natchitoches.
> >
> > So, if the two names are related, it is probably through the
> linguistic
> > similarity of the various local bands of Caddoan Indians.
> >
> > I know that this has little to do with boundaries (except on
deep
> historical
> > background), but you asked.
> >
> > Lowell G. McManus
> > Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>
>
>
>
>
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