oops
in favor of cooch behar rather than against it is its average clave
size of about 60 hectares
compared to baarles average clave size of about 280 hectares
& however this edge is softened by the fractalizing net of rivers
it still means the smallest claves are correspondingly more likely
to be found at cooch behar than at baarle
if not also the claves of shortest perimeter
for shortest perimeter & smallest area are 2 separate & perhaps
equally interesting questions
possibly but not at all necessarily resolvable by a single answer
--- In
BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "acroorca2002"
<orc@o...> wrote:
> thanx for the tries len
> but why do you think so
>
> you &or brendan may well know some hard facts i need
> but i settled on baarle first because it is substantially urban
> while cooch behar is substantially rural
> so even tho in densest asia as well as more numerous
> the smallest bengali farmsteads still mightnt be so small as
the
> smallest house lots in downtown baarle
>
> but besides that
> the bengali claves are notoriously fractal too
> reportedly often involving streams etc
>
> so for both reasons
> i dont see a great likelihood of a real winner of under 220
meters
> geodetic in cooch behar
> not at first glance anyway
> tho perhaps an asterisk taker
>
> but anyway you are certainly right that such a major probability
> needs to be actually exhausted rather than just blown off
> & brendan probably does know at least all the hectarages
> even if not all the other necessary particulars
> so he & we might know at a glance whether there even is a
> serious candidate to detain ourselves over in cooch behar
> before proceeding to compare the baarle candidates
> which i think is where i am still headed anyway
> tho there is always room for course correction if warranted
>
> also maybe brendan will get back to us at the same time about
> his ongoing investigation into whether there is or isnt a second
> border cross in cooch behar too
>
>
> the erstwhile cis farm boundary
> if that is the one you mean
> is presumably out of date
> whatever its length may have been
>
> & the gibraltar example is like penon de velez de la gomera
> only longer
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "L. A. Nadybal"
> <lnadybal@c...> wrote:
> > I think if you check with Brendan, he'll find Bangladesh
> enclaves so
> > small that the border around them will beat the border
around
> any
> > little piece of Baarle that you might find.
> >
> > There was also the little border around a piece of property in
> one of
> > the CIS states we found (have a map somewhere), and then
> there's the
> > Gibraltar-Spain border which is so short one can walk it in
> fifteen
> > minutes at most.
> >
> > LN
> >
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "acroorca2002"
> <orc@o...> wrote:
> > > we have already nominated the narrow neck between
> morocco &
> > > spain at penon de velez de la gomera
> > > worlds shortest international dry boundary
> > > & have even made plans to dig it up & reduce it to the
> vanishing
> > > point at high tide
> > > just for the fun of it
> > >
> > > however the esmo border there presumably already
> continues
> > > out to sea delimiting miles of territorial waters in both
> directions
> > >
> > > so the border there is only the landlubbers shortest rather
> than
> > > the actual shortest border in the world
> > >
> > >
> > > the search for the actual shortest tho has led me to baarle
> > >
> > > happily it appears to be another tossup between 2
> candidates
> > > both looking in this case like about 220 meters
> > >
> > > these can be seen in
> > > http://ontology.buffalo.edu/smith//baarle/baarlemap.html
> > > as the irregular pink polygon at upper left near the name
> loveren
> > > & the white quadrilateral 2 scrolls down between k12 & k13
> > >
> > > so my questions are
> > > can anyone give more exact border lengths for these 2
claves
> > > or possibly better yet
> > > can anyone find a shorter international border anywhere
else