What about the south pole, for 2 Aussie bits, a NZ bit, a French one, a Brit
one (or Chilean or Agentinian), and the unclaimed/Norwegian bit. That's 6,
with 2 overlapping claims...
I presume you've seen the Simpson's episode where they all hold hands at
'5-corners' where 5 US states meet...
Brendan
>From: michael donner <m@...>
>Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@egroups.com
>To: boundarypoint@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [BoundaryPoint] tp belgium germany holland aka bedenl
>Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:28:08 -0400
>
>ok brendan
>beautiful visitation report
>
>& glad to have these corrections & multi negations
>from which i gather you mean you would end the multipoint chronology
>attempted below with the treaty of versailles itself in 1919 rather than
>continue it to 1977
>& that the bedenl tripoint actually reached its present configuration no
>later than versailles itself
>since both moresnet & eupenmalmedy effectively became belgium at that time
>regardless of the bogus plebiscite & bogus ratification & the subsequent
>reorganizations you mentioned
>
>that is fine with me
>nor do i regret the loss of this putative ghost quintipoint in any case
>since i believe its removal from consideration leaves on the quinti level
>besides an also recently defunct quintiadministrative point of a certain
>pacific archipelago whose name i forget
>only the actual quinticounty point of lake okeechobee
>aka usfl3glhemaokpa
>still in the running for global maxipoint
>
>i mean it is no longer any contest at all so far as i can tell
>
>glhemaokpa simply is the global maxipoint designate
>
>& i probably dont have to remind anyone here that the pa of glhemaokpa is
>none other than palm beach county
>
>so if anyone was wanting more of a recount there we would have to also
>recount glades & hendry & martin & okeechobee counties too within the
>global meltdown epicenter
>
>m
>
>
>
> >>From: "Brendan Whyte" <brwhyte@...>
> >
> >no, no ,no,
> >what i meant was, accordingf to Versailles, Moresnet was integrated into
> >Belgium along with Epen/Malmedy (subject to a plebiscite where those NOT
> >wanting to be Belgianised could sign a register in public in front of
> >Belgian police. some free vote! Funnily enough, few did so.
> >So 1921 (or 22?) it was all confirmed, belgium having admined the area in
> >the meantime.
> >Moresnet became a Belgiuan commune then, and it was not until the
>municipal
> >reoganisation of 1977 that commune Moresnet was joined to other communes
>to
> >make a new, larger commune. Neutral Moresnet disappeared in 1918/9 at
> >Versailles.
> >Apparently the border stones still exist and thesre is a wlkaing trail
> >around them. The day i was there (yesterday) there was a hunt on in the
> >forest making up much of the old Neut Moresnet, so it was offlimits
>because
> >of Belgian idiots running riot with red jackets and shotguns.
> >So for a while the Belgian border was more dangerous to me than the
>Indian
> >border!
> >
> >Brendan
> >
> >
> >>From: michael donner <m@...>
> >>Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@egroups.com
> >>To: boundarypoint@egroups.com
> >>Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] tp belgium germany holland aka bedenl
> >>Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 04:27:40 -0400
> >>
> >><http://home.hccnet.nl/c.damen/images/landkaart/landkaart_stip.jpg>
> >>http://home.hccnet.nl/c.damen/images/landkaart/landkaart_stip.jpg gives
>a
> >>nice outline map of neutral moresnet & shows how it used to meet the
>bedenl
> >>point in at least a quadripoint
> >>
> >>note
> >> netherlands is at upper left
> >> germany is at upper right
> >> old belgium is to the left of the blue dot area
> >> moresnet or kelmis is within the blue dot area
> >> eupen malmedy is to the right of the blue dot area
> >>
> >>upon further study
> >>i believe this bedenl point may also have been not just a legal
>quadripoint
> >>but fully a legal quintipoint between 1919 & 1922
> >>still only trinational in composition but quintipartite in form
> >>when the 2 distinct but adjacent & convergent expatriated zones are
> >>considered along with & separate from the 3 countries themselves
> >>
> >>based on the info from brendan below & gideon & other sources
> >>the chronology of the development of the point seems to be
> >>1815 tripoint moresnet netherlands prussia north
> >>1839 quadripoint belgium moresnet netherlands prussia
> >>1871 quadripoint belgium germany moresnet netherlands
> >>1919 quintipoint belgium eupen&malmedy germany moresnet netherlands
> >>1922 quadripoint belgium germany kelmis netherlands
> >>1940 1945 intermezzo
> >>1945 quadripoint belgium germany kelmis netherlands resumes
> >>1977 tripoint belgium germany netherlands
> >>
> >>the trickiest part occurs between the treaty of versailles in 1919 & the
> >>belated belgian confirmation to the league of nations in 1922 that the
> >>confirmational plebiscite mandated for eupen malmedy in 1920 was in fact
> >>completed
> >>
> >>if the moresnet or kelmis area was not fully integrated into belgium
>until
> >>1977 as mentioned below
> >>but remained until then & except during world war 2 an international
>rather
> >>than an exclusively belgian entity & territory
> >> the terms of the treaty of versailles to the contrary notwithstanding
> >>& if eupen malmedy was also not fully & legally integrated into belgium
> >>until after the league of nations confirmed the plebiscite in 1922
> >>then bedenl was a legal quintipoint between 1919 & 1922
> >>& still a legal quadripoint as recently as 1977
> >> or i am deceived
> >>
> >>m
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >thank you brendan
> >> >
> >> >these are the data i wanted
> >> >
> >> >fantastic
> >> >
> >> >m
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>Actually it was a quadripoint from 1815-1918.
> >> >>Moresnet was in dispute between Prussia and Holland afteer the
>Congress
> >>of
> >> >>Vienna and so became a neutral zone between them (it contianed a
> >>valuable
> >> >>zinc mine).
> >> >>In 1830 Belgium became indep, and Moresnet became a Belg/Prussian
> >>neutral
> >> >>zone, but still connected to Netherlands by a single point.
> >> >>1918 treaty of Versailles, Belgium was awarded Eupen in Prussia (to
>be
> >> >>affirmed by a 'plebiscite'in 1920) and so apart fomr the point,
>Moresnet
> >>was
> >> >>now totally surrounded by Belgium (still it met Neth and Germany at
>the
> >> >>point), so it was given to Belgium too.
> >> >>In 1977 Moresnet commune was amalgamated with nearby commeunes, so
>the
> >>shape
> >> >>of it has changed only recently. 1815-1977 it existed as an
> >>international
> >> >>entity or a commune (called Kelmis by the Belgians).
> >> >>Brendan
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>From: michael donner <m@...>
> >> >>>Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@egroups.com
> >> >>>To: BoundaryPoint@egroups.com
> >> >>>Subject: [BoundaryPoint] tp belgium germany holland aka bedenl
> >> >>>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 14:32:31 -0400
> >> >>>
> >> >>>the present bedenl point was between 1919 & 1922 actually a
> >> >>> >trinational quadripoint with a binational bede neutral zone
> >> >>> >& the conjunction as a whole was therefore topologically identical
>to
> >>the
> >> >>> >other suspected similarly defunct example which arif is on the
>track
> >>of
> >> >>>at
> >> >>> >present day tp iraq kuwait saudi arabia
> >> >>>
> >> >>>& if you zoom in on bedenl at mapquest
> >> >>>you will see a municipal boundary also converging upon it from the
>ssw
> >> >>>which in fact formerly separated the bede neutral zone from belgium
> >> >>>& thus for a few years promoted this tp into a trinational
>quadripoint
> >> >>>
> >> >>>m
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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