Hi Mike
Congrats on getting hold of the Gideon book. Where did you get it? I search my local library and they told me there were only one copy of the book in Denmark, and it is far away (nothing is far in Denmark compare to America).
Jesper
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From: michael donner <m@...>
To: <boundarypoint@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 5:16 AM
Subject: [BoundaryPoint] the good news from gideons jerusalem bible
> or some highlights anyway
>
>
> first
> & just to make 2 wrongs into a right
> because we can
> here is a serenade to jespers early suggestion & first ever nomination of a
> mountain peak tripoint
> in message 117
> namely tp egypt libya sudan
> which you may recall my poor atlas led me to call doubtful in message 150
> & a good atlas even flatly disallowed in message 662
> but well jesper it now seems you were right the first time about this mt
> uweinat
> for according to gideon its summit is in fact the tp
> bravo
>
>
> second
> & just to extend further our celebration of peak tripoints
> by giving more examples to search for pix of
> gideon actually provides a worldwide list of them
> the first assemblage of any kind of tri country points i have ever seen
> anywhere
> apart from our own tries
> & this in itself is an extra cause to celebrate
>
> so without further ado
> except to note that china kyrgyzstan tajikistan is not among the peak tps
> oops so much for the roof of the world
> but happily it is the westernmost point of china
> & that the book is full of stuff like this
> our first known tri country point extremity
> score about 20 tp peaks named as follows
>
> afghanistan china pakistan
> an unnamed peak or 2 to choose from
>
> afghanistan china tajikistan
> povalo shveykovski
>
> afghanistan iran pakistan
> kuh i malik siah
>
> argentina bolivia chile
> zapaleri
>
> austria czech republic germany
> plockenstein
>
> austria italy slovenia
> patzen peak on mt forno or petzen pec on mt ofen
>
> austria italy switzerland
> piz lad
>
> austria liechtenstein switzerland
> near but probably not precisely at naafkopf peak
>
> bosnia croatia serbia
> orijen
>
> brazil guyana venezuela
> roraima
>
> bulgaria greece macedonia
> tumba or beles or pole
>
> china india nepal
> jongsong
>
> china kazakhstan russia
> kuytun
>
> egypt libya sudan
> uweinat
>
> el salvador guatemala honduras
> montecristo
>
> france italy switzerland
> dolent
>
> guinea ivory coast liberia
> neun
>
> iraq jordan saudi arabia
> anaiza
>
> israel lebanon syria
> hermon
>
> poland slovakia ukraine
> kremenec
>
> rwanda uganda zaire
> sabinio
>
>
>
> third
> & just because it seems so outrageous in light of where we have been since
> message 84
> gideon says there is indeed a tp austria germany switzerland in the
> southeastern section of lake constance 2 miles north of the swiss town of
> alten rhein
> & mapquest shows it there too i might add
>
> this seems to correspond very well with the equidistant point or median
> line junction point we were groping for in message 153
>
> now whether gideon is reporting a fact here or simply taking matters into
> his own hands
> as i proposed we do for purposes of dropping a commemorative buoy
> is anyones guess
> but the caveat by martin in message 754 about eventual outcomes often
> differing from assumptive maritime equidistant tripoints would seem to be
> well taken here in lake constance as well
>
> in any case the question remains
> does gideon know something we & barry dont
> or should we continue to rely on barry about that hole or triarea there
>
> similarly
> gideon says there is indeed also a tp belgium germany holland in the main
> navigation channel or thalweg of the our river
> & mentions no our river condominium between germany & luxemburg
> nor any between germany & belgium
> so he sees no triline or trijoint
> as was also suggested by barry in message 293
> but just an ordinary bedelu tp after all
> as i believe peter sensibly favors also
>
> these data & others mentioned below suggest to me that gideon may have
> occasionally simplified matters in the interest of expediency
> which i gather barry by contrast had no need or reason to do
>
> for i still think barry may well be right & gideon therefore incorrect
> about both of these atchde & bedelu situations
> but perhaps barry or someone can source or clarify these matters further
>
>
>
> fourth & really most exciting for me
> apart from the above lingering uncertainties
> gideon basically agrees with all our tri country point assumptions &
> conclusions in message 597 right down to the western sahara & the de facto
> tripoints on cyprus
> except
> he repeatedly asserts the existence of the botswana namibia zambia zimbabwe
> quadripoint while scarcely whispering that it is actually in dispute
>
> nor would i demur about this additional apparent simplification of his
> since his encyclopedic authority could very well stand to advance the
> maxipoint candidacy of this prospective bwnazmzw point that i too have so
> fondly promoted
>
> but since i have more recently seen on cspan tv the botswana ambassador to
> the united nations say there is still a disagreement about whether his
> country shares with zambia only a common point or a common boundary
> i continue to think it best as well as most diplomatic to follow brownlie
> in his uncertainty here also
> & at least continue to allow for the probability of a short botswana zambia
> boundary between 2 tripoints rather than a bwnazmzw quadripoint only
>
>
>
> fifth
> gideon gives no support for the 1375 french spanish boundary agreement &
> monument reported recently here but holds the line there at no earlier than
> 1659
> while he does claim andorras 1278 boundaries are the oldest extant in the
> world
>
>
>
> finally
> the book is full of other goodies as brendan promised
> like a list of named boundaries that includes red lines & green lines &
> blue lines & even 1 violet line
> plus many great maps & photos
> & it will probably keep me gleaning additional tripoint data for some time
> to come
> which i will endeavor to assemble & report eventually
>
>
> resubmerging
> m
>
>
>
> the encyclopedia of international boundaries
> by gideon biger with ibru
> facts on file 1995
> jerusalem
>
> good book
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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