Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] binational quadripoints
Date: Sep 16, 2000 @ 01:30
Author: David Mark (David Mark <dmark@...>)
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We ordered an excellent detailed Baarle map, 1:10,000 I think. Scanning
was not really an option so we digitized all the borders and produced maps
with a GIS that are shown on
http://wings.buffalo.edu/philosophy/faculty/smith/baarle.htm. The third
one shows all the enclaves, and the Dutch enclaves between them, but only
a few roads. The map linked to Barry's Baarle web site, the URL
http://wings.buffalo.edu/philosophy/faculty/smith/baarle/baarlemap.html
posted earlier, shows detail down to the houses.

Michael, as far as binational quadripoints, I count 2 rather definite,
one more likely. A little difficult to point them out on
http://wings.buffalo.edu/philosophy/faculty/smith/baarle/baarlemap.html
But here goes:

1. Just northwest of the B in "Baarle-Nassau
2. Just north of the word "Rethse"
3. probably another just northeast of 2, half way between the words
"Rethse" and "Kap"

David

On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Jesper & Nicolette Nielsen wrote:

>
> Well studying Peter's Baarle map shows enclaves inside enclaves. It is a pity that we won´'t be able to scan his stuff on Sunday, so we can share it with you.
>
> Jesper
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Arif Samad <fHoiberg@...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@egroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 5:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] binational quadripoints
>
>
> >
> > When I went to Bangladesh, a friend from the
> > boundaries database I am on showed maps (1:62500) of
> > the Bangladesh-India enclave area. A possible
> > intersecting border (Binational quadripoints?) shows
> > up on one of the maps. Obviously better maps would
> > completely clear it up. However, both countries
> > consider it a disputed area and do not publish
> > detailed maps. For those interested, one of the maps
> > also show an Indian enclave within a Bangladeshi
> > enclave within an Indian enclave. If true, it will be
> > the only enclave within an enclave within one in the
> > world. I would like to visit the area next time I go
> > to my home country as it is only 10-20 miles from my
> > mother's birthplace. I will try to get maps from my
> > friends, though I don't know how that will help as I
> > don't have a scanner.
> > I have seen non-detailed maps where the tongue in
> > Jungholz is shown wider than it is for cartographic
> > simplicity. Could the 10-20 meter tongue as shown on
> > maps be cartographic simplicity? I have no idea what
> > to call those points. I actually thought most
> > boundary-makers would be smart to get rid of such
> > cartographic curiosities.
> >
> >
> > --- michael donner <m@...> wrote:
> > > welcome dear old friend & multibenefactor
> > >
> > > & what magnificent new gift tidings you bring from
> > > the east
> > >
> > > that elusive third item
> > > i had a hunch it had to be there somewhere
> > > in our now charmed ensemble of
> > > well how shall we consider them
> > >
> > > for it is a beautiful & subtle question you raise
> > >
> > > & what to properly call them
> > > for they could be the coolest thing on earth
> > > & deserve the coolest possible name
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > now that you do mention it
> > > it might actually be a mistake to consider them
> > > quadripoints
> > > or multipoints at all
> > > if they are the result of a simple line intersection
> > > as at baarle
> > >
> > > but the jungholz thing at least struck me not as an
> > > x intersection but
> > > rather as a type k junction of at least 2 & perhaps
> > > 4 true line terminals
> > > if i recall correctly
> > > for i wish i could find a true map
> > >
> > > so i believe we can consider & proclaim 2 distinct
> > > types of these thingies
> > > probably needing different names
> > >
> > >
> > > perhaps mobius points is a witty & catchy enough
> > > name for the true cruciforms
> > >
> > > & davids droll suggestion wusfripoints works for
> > > me for the freeforms
> > > in my makeshift cockabebble language
> > > so i would seriously propose it
> > >
> > >
> > > also i am wondering
> > > does the india bangladesh example belong to one of
> > > these 2 types
> > > & can you show it off to us in any way
> > >
> > > & i am finally also wondering about how you are
> > > considering & calling them too
> > > because i know you are the master of this game
> > >
> > > m
> > >
> >
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