BJButler's reference to message 2764 explains why there is a question.
From Michael Donner's message of June 9:
> btw
> neglected to mention at the time
> but we hit nmoktx last week using jacks book
> & it turns out our previous try at it was wrong
>
> so that wonderful picture of jc with her tongue pointing
> at the old corner corner site
> must join the half dozen other pseudopoints there if it still exists
> mostly of my own creation
>
> the funny part is that we needlessly braved jumping barbed wire & hot
> pursuit by a herd of cattle for that one
> while jacks correct nmoktx point is just an easy roadside picnic stop
But from my experience, my map reading, and Jack's message below, it seems
to me that both JC and I were really at the true tri-state point, so
perhaps the "easy roadside picnic stop" is the "ersatz" one.
I have a theory: Perhaps Michael got confused by the nice big roadside
monument along the paved US Highways 56/64, "Clark's Monument", which
parks the northwest corner of the Texas panpandle. See
http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=13&n=4041018&e=675437&s=25&size=s
This is a corner of Texas, but not a tri-state point.
I am still confident that the cylidrical monument 2.3 miles east, at which
JC and I were (separately) photographed, is at or very close to the true
tri-state point.
David
On Sat, 16 Jun 2001, Jack Parsell wrote:
> David's description of his route to the monument, and the location of the monument
> is exactly the way we found it, so I too am perplexed by the questioning here. I recall
> a report of some other markers along the road and in the field to the NW of the junction
> of the two roads, which would put them in NM assuming thr road is centered on the
> NM-OK line. I'll check my files when I get home Mon night for more info on this.
> We are at Lake Ontario at our summer cottage now.
> Jack
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Mark
> To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 8:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] NMOKTX Question
>
>
> Dear BJButler,
>
> The monument I photographed and was photographed with, a concrete post
> some 8 inches across, shown on
> http://www.geog.buffalo.edu/~dmark/tristate/10NMOKTX.html with a
> benchmark on top by the "U.S. General Land Office Survey" from 1932, is
> located, within limits of map accuracy, exactly at the red "cross-hairs"
> on http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=13&n=4041104&e=678962&s=25&size=s
> (See the little scanned map image on my page which appears exactly like
> the topozone image only smaller.)
>
> The road on the top photo on
> http://www.geog.buffalo.edu/~dmark/tristate/10NMOKTX.html is the road
> running west from the tripoint as shown on the maps.
>
> So, what's with your use of the word "ersatz"?? Nothing immitation about
> it as far as I know!!
>
> David
>
> On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 bjbutler@... wrote:
>
> > Maybe Jack, Mike, or David can answer this: Is the true NMOKTX
> > monument shown at the cross-hair location on the following topo map?
> > http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=13&n=4041104&e=678962&s=25&size=s
> >
> > If so, then where on the map is the ersatz NMOKTX made famous by JC
> > and DM?
> >
> > BJB
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