I'm looking forward to it. I can get along with Danish, with a
dictionary and some guess-work ;-)
BTW, regarding
http://grumpy.fm.vse.cz/www/sakko/fotky/800x600/s1v.jpg : is that a
border marker I see there behind the fence (the little stone with
some red)? It certainly looks like one!
Peter S.
--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "Peter Hering" <hering@m...> wrote:
> Thanks Peter S.
> found it!!!
> Tomorrow I'll scan the article
> on U Sabotu....there's a nice pic-
> ture in it...!
> Regards
> Peter H.
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Peter Smaardijk
> Date: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 16:03:47
> To: BoundaryPoint@y...
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Iron Curtian stories: Sidonie
>
> Sidonie is just north-east of road 57 from Brumov-Bylnice (cz) to
> Dubnica nad Vahom (Vahom with acute accent on a) (sk). The road is
> doubled by a railway, and there is the railway station Vlarsky
> Prusmyk (acutes on vowels in Vlarsky, small circle on u in Prusmyk)
> just inside cz territory. The sk village on the other side of the
> border on road 57 is Rybniky (acute on i). The main road to Sidonie
> runs from road 57 in a north-easterly direction through the valley
of
> the little stream that used to be the boundary (and possibly still
> is, but that we don't know yet). First you get to a tiny hamlet
> called Vlarka (acute on first a), then to Sidonie, which
> administratively is a city quarter, belonging to the city of Brumov-
> Bylnice. The road from road 57 to the centre of Sidonie is 3,5 km
> long, and continues another kilometre after that. Then it stops
(some
> dirt track continues into Slovakia, on my map). The co-ordinates of
> Sidonie are 18d05m east, 49d03m north (appr.).
>
> A picture of the border at Vlarsky prusmyk (which means Vlara pass,
> the Vlara (acute on first a) being the river, of which the Sidonie
> stream is a tributary), can be seen at
> http://grumpy.fm.vse.cz/www/sakko/fotky/800x600/s1v.jpg . It looks
> like the fence on the picture is part of the bridge over this
little
> stream, but I can't be sure, of course.
>
> Peter S.
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "Peter Hering" <hering@m...> wrote:
> > Peter S.,
> > that's a very interesting link about
> > the exchange of territory between
> > SK and CZ ! As a matter of fact, I
> > do have an article - in Danish - about
> > this village U Sabotu, where most
> > people were angry about the drawing
> > of the new boundary line after the
> > peaceful "divorce"...
> > So, it looks like things have been
> > settled to the satisfaction of the
> > local people there, but Peter :
> > where is Sidonie????
> > PS: I'll bring along this article
> > to Baarle in Sept. !!!
> > Regards
> > Peter H.
> >
> > -------Original Message-------
> >
> > From: Peter Smaardijk
> > Date: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 11:16:55
> > To: BoundaryPoint@y...
> > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Iron Curtian stories: Sidonie
> >
> > After some searching, I found that the exchange of Sidonie/U
Sabotu
> > took place on July 25, 1997:
> > http://www.fss.muni.cz/projekty/stisk/issues/stisk_10_98/ . In
> > English: http://www.rferl.org/newsline/1997/07/3-CEE/cee-
> 280797.html .
> >
> > So in my opinion, it would be strange to find the boundary still
in
> > the middle of the village, in that small stream. Perhaps this
> chapter
> > 3 is a bit old?
> >
> > Peter S.
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@y...>
wrote:
> > > In chapter 3, the story of Sidonie comes up, with the czsk
> boundary
> > > running through the village. But then it looks like the treaty
of
> > > 1994 (see msg. 1665) was not executed, or this article is older
> > than
> > > it says here (1999). Acc. to the news item referred to in msg.
> > 1665,
> > > the entire village was awarded to the Czech rep.; Slovakia got
> the
> > > village U Sabotu. Still, not having read the actual text of the
> > > treaty, nothing's for sure here yet.
> > >
> > > On my map (1:100000 road atlas, 1997), I can't make out whether
> the
> > > boundary follows the main road of the village or the stream
that
> > runs
> > > through the village. In both cases the boundary does run
straight
> > > through the village. The main road crosses the stream a number
of
> > > times (Sidonie is a long village, along this stream, in a
hilly,
> > not
> > > to say mountainous, area).
> > >
> > > A couple of years ago I passed the village by train here and
was
> > > checked by border control officers of both countries at the
> Vlarsky
> > > Prusmyk (Vlarsky with acute accents on the vowels, Prusmyk with
a
> > > small circle on top of the u) railway station. If only I'd
known
> > > then, I would have taken a look there.
> > >
> > > Peter S.
> > >
> > > --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "Jesper & Nicolette Nielsen"
> > > <jesniel@i...> wrote:
> > > > http://latimes.qpass.com/news/nation/reports/curtain/
> >
> >
> >
> >
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