wait peter
notwithstanding descheemaeker & the basques on this hyper boundary
didnt you conclude in message 1740 that the ile de la conference dry condo
territory was entirely enclaved in wet spanish territory
& thus didnt & doesnt interrupt the esfr boundary at all
as does the wet esfr condo territory in the bay below it
i thought you were right about that then & still do
& wonder what really is meant by hyper in this context
if not just the fact that true boundary islets naturally present a kind of
supersized monumentation
m
>
>It looks like there are three types of boundary divided islands at
>stake here:
>
>1. (the bigger islands) There were settlements at different points,
>from where sovereignty was extended until a boundary was formed/had
>to be drawn.
>2. The boundary was already there, drawn without knowledge of what
>was in the way, and an island happened to be in the way so it was cut
>in two
>3. The island was purposely used as a boundary marker.
>
>The last type is the 'Scandinavian' one, by the looks of it. It is,
>however, somewhat similar to the Ile de la Conference, which is a
>condominium, but is also some sort of a hyper-boundary marker on the
>esfr boundary. It is explicitely characterised like this by
>Descheemaeker, and truly a monument to Spanish-French co-operation.
>Although Basque people would think otherwise, I guess. But they can
>continue to view it as a monument that keeps North and South together.
>
>Peter S.
>
>--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., Arif Samad <fHoiberg@y...> wrote:
>>
>> Brendan, Thank you for the research. I guess
>> Goretty disappeared as an enclave at some time. I
>> have not been able to find the 1991 census handbook,
>> so you are definitely more current.
>> I should have rephrased my question on divided
>> islands. I noticed there are other islands that are
>> divided, but the big islands mentioned were divided
>> with full knowledge of colonial consequences. They
>> are big islands that had to be divided as different
>> groups were in control of parts before the islands
>> were eventually divided and the division couldn't be
>> circumvented. Only US-Canada and Scandinavian borders
>> seem to divide tiny islands that could easily be
>> circumnavigated by the boundary lines. I wonder why
>> that is. Mike's explanation makes a lot of sense
>> though. Then again, all of them could just be
>> mistakes.
>> Brendan, don't you have the points for Baarle?
>> Maybe you could create excel charts of the small
>> enclaves in Baarle like ones done for Cyprus.
>> Arif
>>
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