Subject: second try at a complete punctoscopy of canada<br/>
Date: Apr 24, 2001 @ 04:00<br/>
Author: michael donner (michael donner &lt;m@...&gt;)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-145833959">same as first try<br/>
but with the following improvements<br/>
confirming several of the earlier  risky assumptions  in message 2068<br/>
& closing out all known potential changes<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
  according to  environment canada<br/>
  on a page entitled<br/>
  canadas oceans  experience & practices<br/>
  <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www2.ec.gc.ca/agenda21/99/canocn.html">http://www2.ec.gc.ca/agenda21/99/canocn.html</a><br/>
<br/>
the federal government has principal authority over oceans & their resources<br/>
<br/>
generally provincial governments have some authority over<br/>
  shorelines  to  the  low  water  mark<br/>
    over some marine areas<br/>
      & over many land based marine activities<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
  & in the oceans of canada act  1997<br/>
  <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://icm.noaa.gov/laws/oacte.html">http://icm.noaa.gov/laws/oacte.html</a><br/>
<br/>
the term  low water lines  is specified there<br/>
  rather than  low water mark  as used above<br/>
& the following additional definitions are given<br/>
<br/>
the internal waters of canada consist of the waters on the landward side of<br/>
the low water lines  & associated baselines  of the territorial sea of<br/>
canada<br/>
<br/>
the internal waters of canada & the territorial sea of canada form part of<br/>
canada<br/>
<br/>
in any area of the sea not within a province<br/>
the seabed & subsoil below the internal waters of canada are vested in her<br/>
majesty in right of canada<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
so it seems pretty clear now that  seaward of the low tide line  there are<br/>
only federal waters & no provincial waters anywhere<br/>
& in marine areas above the low tide line  there may be federal waters also<br/>
but provincial jurisdiction would seem to be common if not standard<br/>
practice in those areas<br/>
<br/>
also it seems the terms  low water mark  &  low water lines  may both have<br/>
been carefully chosen to indicate the lowest of low tides rather than mean<br/>
low tide<br/>
  or else i am reading something into them that was never intended<br/>
<br/>
still  it is hard to imagine that these terms were used carelessly or<br/>
indifferently<br/>
<br/>
<br/>
finally<br/>
the above definitions<br/>
combined with an absence of tidal flats in the stikine estuary anywhere<br/>
even remotely close to canadian territory<br/>
pretty well rule out any possibility of canadian coastal waters & tripoints<br/>
in that area<br/>
<br/>
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so the overall picture & the specific numbers in the first try remain<br/>
unchanged & somewhat less presumptious & better substantiated<br/>
<br/>
confirmation is still missing  however  that there are in fact no longer<br/>
any federal inland waters whatsoever<br/>
  meaning absolutely everywhere above the estuaries<br/>
& this single but huge remaining data gap could still well have<br/>
punctological import<br/>
<br/>
m</div>