Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: exclaves of everyones land revised<br/>
Date: Mar 22, 2001 @ 18:46<br/>
Author: michael donner (michael donner &lt;m@...&gt;)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-1739658174">precisely right of both of hugo & peter<br/>
& continued below<br/>
<br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt;<br/>
&gt;--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., michael donner &lt;m@d...&gt; wrote:<br/>
&gt;the really wonderful news for me &  i think  for everyone here is that<br/>
&gt;&gt; your dialog does at the same time positively mark the first<br/>
&gt;multilateral<br/>
&gt;&gt; recognition of the reality & sovereignty of everyones land<br/>
&gt;&gt; because you couldnt be discussing matters quite this way if you<br/>
&gt;hadnt both<br/>
&gt;&gt; first understood  & at least provisionally agreed with  what i was<br/>
&gt;talking<br/>
&gt;&gt; about<br/>
&gt;<br/>
&gt;Well, I am from that same country Hugo de Groot came from. There were<br/>
&gt;no territorial zones or EEZ&#39;s then. Brittannia was a bit possessive<br/>
&gt;about the waves, but De Groot said the sea is everyones playground.<br/>
&gt;<br/>
&gt;But in the world we live in, it is a good thing to set some rules<br/>
&gt;about this playground.<br/>
&gt;<br/>
&gt;Peter S.<br/>
<br/>
 </span></blockquote>precisely right of both of you  hugo & peter<br/>
which is why i have scrupled so punctiliously to set the rules & bounds of<br/>
this playground precisely where they have indeed already been set<br/>
not by me but<br/>
by the series of unclos & other agreements & proclamations by the<br/>
individual countries of the world<br/>
beginning with the antarctic treaty of 1959<br/>
& then extending these rules outward from this our penguiny but duly<br/>
designated metro homeland area<br/>
seaward or landward as necessary between the 200nm & 12nm rules<br/>
& casting zillions in mineral rights etc to the wind &or the deep sans souci<br/>
as soon as i realized each of my several earlier misapprehensions regarding<br/>
the various rules of sovereignty & exploitation<br/>
<br/>
but the truth still seems to me to be that there is a vast area<br/>
comprising both a good bit of land & ice  plus most of the seabed & the sea<br/>
which is being held in reserve for us all to claim & own sovereignty over<br/>
like the indians who woke up one day to realize they legally sort of own 2<br/>
thirds of maine<br/>
even tho  last i heard  they were of course still in court trying to get to it<br/>
<br/>
m</div>