I don't remember the stone , but the traditional costumes, cattle exchange,
and lots of gaudily dressed American tourists wth chewing gum and outrageous
accents, marvelling at a country having 'history'. ;-)
Brendan
>From: michael donner <m@...>
>Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
>To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Bidasoa-Txingudi
>Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 06:11:12 -0500
>
>well then
>were they making a point about the age of the stone
>
>or the circumstances of its placement
>
>or what if anything else was said about the stone per se
>
>m
>
>
>
> >Aha! This tourist attraction was shown in the Pyrenees episode of
> >"frontiers", the BBC programme.
> >Brendan
> >
> >
> >>From: Peter Smaardijk <peter.smaardijk@...>
> >>Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> >>To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> >>Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Bidasoa-Txingudi
> >>Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 09:41:11 +0100
> >>
> >>michael donner wrote:
> >>
> >> > great
> >> > thank you again
> >> > & i will keep working on the treaty text link
> >> >
> >> > also
> >> > neither my french nor eyesight are very good
> >> > but are you talking about the same st martin stone as referred to in
> >> > http://www.esj-lille.fr/atelier/explo/EPOQUE/NEP_06.HTM
> >> >
> >> > perhaps i only misconstrued the meaning of the date 1375 in relation
>to
> >>the
> >> > stone depicted
> >> > but i also cant recall any of eefs that look anything like this
> >> >
> >> > m
> >>
> >>Yes, they're talking about the same stone here, but I will check with
>the
> >>photograph I made and with
> >>other sources, because there seems to be a difference between the stone
>in
> >>the picture on that site
> >>and border stone 262. In the 1856 treaty it says about stone 262:
> >>
> >>"At 530 metres of the previous sign, on the pass and at one metre of St.
> >>Martins stone which is 640
> >>metres east of the summit of L�ch� and 1260 metres west of the Arlas
>peak."
> >>
> >>The St. Martins stone is probably a very old one, but in 1856 they
> >>obviously decided to put another
> >>marker beside it.
> >>
> >>The treaty between the two valley was concluded in 1375. A payment of
>three
> >>cows is made to the
> >>Roncal/Erronkari valley, for the right of the Bar�tounais to let their
> >>cattle graze on Roncalese
> >>territory. The payment is made each year on July 13th. In the article it
> >>says that they have turned
> >>it into a veritable touristical highlight, attracting some 3000
>visitors.
> >>
> >>Now for the scan of that little map, I ask you to be a little more
>patient
> >>still, because of some
> >>technical problems (I made the scan, but there's obviously something
>wrong
> >>with it, as my browser
> >>crashes when I try to open it...). But it's coming, I promise you.
> >>
> >>Peter
> >>
> >
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