thanX mats
i dig it that you dig it
& i will ask jc to scan & hang some maps when she gets home
as i am a total barbarian to modernity
but yes they are distantly separated islands
& yet it is also much like st martin
& on boundaries it is always best to begin with st martin
for he is the patron of them & innkeepers & drunks
& i used to sleep on the freakin beach there man
but to digress further still
so as to come round the other side of the question
st martin is actually a part or really 2 parts of 2 larger exclaves
comprising several islands of france & the netherlands
& embracing st barts on the one side
where they are co exclave of guadeloupe & martinique exclave of france
& saba & statius on the other side
where they are co exclave of netherlands antilles exclave of holland
it is an amazing pair of second generation twins
& worth a trip to pcl
tho i cant find any map showing any lines in the water
so you will have to let your mind do the swimming here
& it is worth noting that these are not only a nicely mated pair of exclaves
but they also reside in a cluster of 4 such including ones of the united
kingdom & united states
& are part of a large nexus of maritime territories legally connecting them
to the american continents
there may even be a legal quadrinational point lurking in here
with st kitts & antigua
in the cases of the double exclaves or binational enclaves i mentioned
these are all much more remote island groups
whose presumptive 200nm of territorial waters links them only to the waters
of their siamese twin clave
& by clave i do mean both exclave & enclave here
there is no coadministration in these cases
& there is even a legal line in the water between france & australia
hence legal tripoints where its ends meet everyones land
all 18 such holes in everyones land
by whatever description
extend at least 400nm or 461 statute miles in every direction
& grow much larger when compounded into twins or greater multiples of
island groups
but are still recognizable as roundish holes
think of it as a golf course just for us giants
m
>Michael,
>
>Double exclaves? Binational enclaves? What
>wonderful and intriguing concepts!
>Thank you for this most interesting report.
>
>Please forgive my ignorance but are the pairs of
>11 and 12 separate islands, or are they St Martin-
>cases, i. e. divided islands? Or maybe even
>co-administered islands?
>
>You wouldn't have a scanned map or two to post,
>would you?
>
>Mats
>
>> in the eyes of enclave lovers a conspicuous omission from the
>> inventory
>> posted here below
>> which would perhaps be unforgiveable not to correct immediately
>> is the fact that the major maritime area of everyones land
>> namely the area indicated as 1b below
>> is interrupted no fewer than 18 times by a total of 20
>> insular exclaves
>> with associated territorial waters of 10 countries as follows
>>
>> atlantic ocean
>> 1 ascension united kingdom
>> 2 azores portugal
>> 3 bermuda united kingdom
>> 4 bouvet norway
>> 5 st helena united kingdom
>> 6 south georgia &c united kingdom
>> 7 trinidade brazil
>> 8 tristan da cunha united kingdom
>>
>> indian ocean
>> 9 amsterdam france
>> 10 cocos & keeling australia
>> 11 crozet & pr edward france & south africa double
>> 12 kerguelen & mcdonald france & australia double
>>
>> pacific ocean
>> 13 clipperton france
>> 14 easter island etc chile
>> 15 hawaii to midway united states
>> 16 johnson atoll united states
>> 17 minami tori shima japan
>> 18 san ambrosio & felix chile
>>
>> not all islands but only the remotest ones produce such holes
>>
>> notably none of the holes is occupied by an independent country
>> & 2 of them as indicated contain double exclaves or
>> binational enclaves
>> such as probably occur nowhere else in the world
>> & which resemble siamese twins on a map
>>
>> m
>>
>>
>> >
>> >further study of relevant works by prescott & blake points
>> in the direction
>> >of an omnisovereign or common human heritage preserve area
>> of the planet
>> >comprising
>> >1 the leading or metropolitan or homeland zone consisting of
>> > a all antarctica plus
>> > b the vast adjacent contiguous area of high seas
>> > in the indian & pacific & atlantic oceans
>> > extending as far north as greenland
>> >2 its 15 all oceanic exclaves or coclaves comprising
>> > a 1 leading & 2 lesser arctic exclaves
>> > b 2 minor gulf of mexico exclaves &
>> > c 10 mostly minor pacific exclaves
>> >totalling 16 units of sea area
>> >with the overwhelmingly major one adjoining the only land area
>> >in a combined territory far larger than any other in the world
>> >
>> >its hottest points
>> >besides the south & north poles
>> >will include the roughly 130 supranational tripoints
>> > where international boundaries meet the omnisovereign area
>> >with the great majority falling along the perimeter of the major unit
>> >
>> >additionally
>> >the 161 continental tri country points
>> > plus an approximately equal number of maritime ones
>> >from which the idea of everyones land was spawned
>> >may continue to be recognized as overseas points of enduring interest
>> >
>> >by thus recognizing all the remotest outlands as the homeland
>> >& turning the known world inside out as it were
>> >we may actually be turning the world upside down again
>> >& so finally setting it aright with the south pole on top
>> >
>> >m
>> >
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