Subject: Re: BYLTLV<br/>
Date: Apr 01, 2003 @ 03:43<br/>
Author: Karolis B. (&quot;Karolis B.&quot; &lt;kbajoraz@...&gt;)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-1341821037"><blockquote><span title="ireply">&gt; ok then that appears to bust our surmise that the 6x6m framed <br/>
&gt; square of everyones land enclosing all 4 of the mentioned <br/>
&gt; elements might be some kind of a legal tridominium<br/>
&gt; as contemplated & seriously entertained following jans original <br/>
&gt; report in message 3696<br/>
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 </span></blockquote>No. of course not! the border guards couldn&#39;t&#39;ve told Jan that they <br/>
were allowing him a legally illegal thing, so came up with something <br/>
like that. Worse if they actually believed it. It&#39;s unbelievable, the <br/>
landlord at an apartment I stayed in Nida, Curonian Spit this summer <br/>
shared with me her outrage that 2 km stretch of prime Curonian land <br/>
was &quot;neutral zone&quot;. The fact that the LT and the RU border posts were <br/>
separated by that distance convinced her so. The point on the beach, <br/>
1340 m inward from the border, where the Lithuanian border guard <br/>
stood at guard of the insanly thick border protection zone, was where <br/>
the prime Curonian no one&#39;s land started. I guess it figures for <br/>
border-ignorant people. Couldn&#39;t say that the Lithuanian border <br/>
guards usually seem to know where the border is either.<br/>
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<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; <br/>
&gt; instead what the square area appears to be is just <br/>
&gt; the project <br/>
&gt; as worked out per article 3 above<br/>
&gt; & any universality inhering in this area appears still to be purely <br/>
&gt; sentimental & symbolic<br/>
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<br/>
 </span></blockquote>yeah, and de facto sometimes too i guess. <br/>
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<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; & tho this little quasi triarea has a practical purpose too in <br/>
&gt; facilitating visitation of the tripoint<br/>
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 </span></blockquote>which happens. (sarcastic)<br/>
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<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; as we have seen<br/>
&gt; there does not appear to be any actual multidominium here yet <br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; also there really is no discernible difference in the byltlv <br/>
 </span></blockquote>position <br/>
<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; depicted in jespers 2 map swatches above<br/>
&gt; ref message 9496<br/>
&gt; but only in the general alignment of the bylt boundary<br/>
&gt; <br/>
<br/>
 </span></blockquote>I would also think the the TP did not change. It was simply searched <br/>
out by BYans LTians and LVians as shown on soviet maps and pointed at <br/>
on the ground, since soviet internal borders suely weren&#39;t marked in <br/>
any way (are you kidding, US states seldom have these, any symbol of <br/>
nationality/sovereignty realted division would be heretic in SU).<br/>
put from the point onwards, the BY/LT Republics border seldom matches <br/>
that of the SSR&#39;s. Minor adjustments, but still, with loss of <br/>
Pagiriai being the most tragic consequence for us. (Adutiskis was <br/>
also about to disappear)<br/>
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<blockquote><span title="qreply"> &gt; the 5x difference in scale may be misleading<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; the tripoint position per se <br/>
&gt; does not appear to have ever been displaced<br/>
&gt; but only refined & zeroed in upon by the demarcation process </span></blockquote></div>