Subject: Re: Somewhat OT: Where does space begin
Date: Jan 16, 2003 @ 23:48
Author: acroorca2002 <orc@orcoast.com> ("acroorca2002 <orc@...>" <orc@...>)
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--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "marcelmiquelcat
<marcelmiquel@n...>" <marcelmiquel@n...> wrote:
>
> You can get more information about outer space treaties and
space
> law at this excellent website from UN:
>
> http://www.oosa.unvienna.org/SpaceLaw/spacelaw.htm
>
> An excerpt from a 1962 UN resolution and the 1967 treaty:
>
> "3. Outer space and celestial bodies are not subject to
national
> appropriation by claim of sovereignty, by means of use or
occupation,
> or by any other means."
>
> The question remains: where are the limits of outer space ?

true
it remains
but it wasnt the question til you asked it

notwithstanding the above title
the original question in the original message was
how high does a national air space legally extend
or
beyond what altitude is overflight permissible
without specific permission

as for your new question or reformulation here
it has been amply documented already
the limits of outer space can be & are defined in a great variety of
ways
but evidently nowhere at all legally
apart from the fact that celestial bodies other than earth are
presumed to be on the far side of it as well as within it

indeed the restriction placed upon outer space by the above law
may seem to narrow the original question by foreclosing the
possibility of any direct or specific national claims to outer space
or anything in it
but that in itself doesnt cancel or limit the principled assumption
of unlimited vertical sovereignty over a national territory
at least not until there is a legal delineation of outer space
which i realize is your question here too

rather the limitation on celestial bodies etc is only owing to the
fact that the earth & the national territories upon it are constantly
moving about in relation to the rest of the cosmos
& that accordingly outer space & the celestial bodies dont stand
still within & cant be defined in terms of any national space
so national ownership of them could never be achieved anyway
under the principle or assumption of unlimited vertical
sovereignty

& i still havent seen any evidence of there being any boundary
point anywhere for satisfying this original question
or your restatement of it

so imo it is only to that extent that any bp question remains




another thing to consider

if outer space is so cosmic
maybe it must include inner space too

or is it just the opposite