It's hard to tell from the picture, but the fence actually is on the borderline, but then shifts to make space around the marker. I'm attaching a picture I took in Point Roberts, Washington that shows a border marker being used as part of a fence. The shot is taken from the Canadian side. There seems to be no buffer here.

And there didn't seem to be any in Beebe, VT either.

When I go visit the Border Patrol office in Blaine (soon, I promise), I'll certainly ask about buffers and markers and private property.

Doug

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From: Victor Cantore

To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 9:02 PM

Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: CAUS - #19

hmmmm this photo brings up a question that i have had for a while and mike you seem like the person who would know the answer there's always a buffer of a foot or 2 on the US side of border markers on both CAUS and MXUS. in doug's photo the american side is obviously private property (farm) with the fence ending with enough space to basically walk around the monument. so my questions are: 1. Does the private property end at the fence in the photo or at the monument? 2. if the fence is the property line, then what purpose does a 2 foot federal buffer around the country serve when access to the monument can be made from canada? Or, why doesn't the fence jump back out to the border a few feet past the monument on either side? why not a circumference around the monument instead of the buffer zone around the whole country. 3. if the space between the fence and monument is private property, then what law or agency created the zone? who has the authority to tell private property owners where they can place their fence? (I know in urban areas it is different and there has to be 15 +/- feet off the border like that for buildings). Do government authorities have to ask for access over private land to get to the monument? it's interesting to me because in these hard economic times, the cumulative effective of 2 feet of unproductive land x 5000+ miles of land borders must equal a huge drain on the economy. hahahaha just kidding. and yes mike i did have a wonderful time in Baarle, Ed is a wonderful host. vc --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "Doug Murray Productions" <doug@d...> wrote: > > Here's a wider shot of #19 with Mount Baker, WA in the background. Note the newly painted base. > > > Doug Murray Productions / Border Films > CBC Infomatrix / CBC POV Sports > Vancouver BC 604-728-1407 > > Best Vancouver excuse for being late for work: > "A movie was being shot and they detained me for continuity." __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2
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