- I consider the moresnet-border-expedition as completed, the missing
bordermarkers not being found by earlier trips of other bordermen. But
sometimes it aches a little: couldn't that one or other marker be hidden in
a backyard or buried under the ground? Shouldn't I one day etc.etc.?
- about the pictures 13 & 15: have a look at
http://www.picturesofmyfinger.com/ , which makes an art of failed pictures.
In my case it was not my finger, just (I mean even worse) the camera-cover.
- "privada de caca" means something like "hunting reserved" I think. Funny
when I think of it but those signs meant in some places for us a
confirmation where the border was. At some places it was neighboured by the
French "Reservée de chasse". So: a kind of bordermarker.
vriendelijke groet, Eef Berns
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websites:
- de grenspalen van Nederland:
http://huizen.dds.nl/~eefberns
- Ivn-Eindhoven:
http://www.dse.nl/ivn
----- Original Message -----
From: "acroorca2002" <orc@...>
To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 3:34 AM
Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: webpage on the bordermarkers of Llivia
i agree with dallens & marcels appreciations eef
& would like to add that this game of boundary perambulation
or ring around the enclave as it might also be called in this case
is among the most interesting & esthetically pleasing of all the
ensembles of boundary pointing tries that are reported here
for even if it doesnt involve multipointing per se
it is still a very distinctive & discrete sort of multiple try pointing
having previously followed your moresnet tour to its completion
except for the very few missing or missed stones
& anticipating a similar result for llivia based on your maps &
marcels report of several possibly missing numbers there too
i am still wondering whether & if so how you have been able to
conclude that your moresnet tour is in fact complete
or as complete as it can possibly be in view of missing stones
or whether we will have to wait til next year to positively enjoy the
worlds first unequivocally uninterrupted perambulation
or will such a certainty of completion still elude us then too
or to put it more simply
how to convince oneself that a missing stone
whether at moresnet or llivia or anywhere
was not merely missed but does in fact not exist
also i wouldnt apologize for those interesting epiphenomena
your camera caught on numbers 13 & 15 here
since they might prove to be our first boundary spirits
or grenz gremlins perhaps
& i have photos of some others i will add when i get my scanner
back up
for comparison & further discussion
but i must say an even more puzzling & entertaining detail is that
sign reading
area privada de caca
which shows up in your llivia numbers 6 & 14
what do you suppose this means
could it just be some additional mischief by those gremlins
& might they themselves not just be the point men for a larger
phenom
which may perhaps be identified some day as the caca group
in any case much entertained by all these tries & mysteries
m
--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., <marcelmiquel@n...> wrote:
> Great job, Eef. Congratulations again.
>
> The double bordermarkers 16-21 are particulary interesting.
I've
> consulted the delimitation treaty: the border is in the middle of
this
> old path from Ro to Llívia. Is this path able to cars, Eef?
>
> Bordermarlers 22 to 45: according to the treaty, bm
> 22,24,27,29,30,37,39 and 40 are crosses marked on the
rocks. You can
> see bm 30 and 40 on my previous msg. n 4476. The
boundarymarker 30,
> defined in the treaty as a cross, nowadays is a
boundarymarker, as you
> can see on the pic.
>
> Bm 31 to 34 are also, according the treaty, double, and located
on the
> both sides of a small river.
>
> In my 1:15.000 map from the spanish army, bm 26, 27, 29, 30,
32 and 33
> are not marked.
>
> We are waiting your next expedition.
>
> Marcel
>
>
>
>
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