I still have that picture of the map somewhere. I'll post it when I
have found it.
Peter S.
--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "lnadybal" <lnadybal@c...> wrote:
> I tried to link to all those photos, and others yesterday that
other
> Geocities members posted, and all the looker gets is "this page is
not
> presently available".
>
> Can you post those photos to the BoundaryPt photos library? I,
too,
> have been curious for years what these little exclaves looked like -
I
> have maps with all sorts of variations in the border around this
film
> center, non of which showed surrounded or detached pieces of West
> in East - I could never figure out what exclaves were meant.
>
> Regards
>
> Len Nadybal
>
>
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "anorak222" <wolfi.junkmail@s...> wrote:
> > While browsing through old threads ... This is posting #3044.
> > Unfortunately the links are dead. Did anyone save the files?
Thank
> you
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., Mats Hessman <blofeld_es@y...> wrote:
> > > Peter Smaardijk wrote:
> > >
> > > >The situation at where it says "Neu-Babelsberg" is the
location
> of
> > > >the former three Boettcherberg enclaves. I have never seen a
map
> > of
> > > >these (at this time, they didn't exist anymore). How did they
> look?
> > >
> > > I had the opportunity briefly to visit the Bottcherberg-area
> > > just the other week.
> > >
> > > Here is an excerpt from a cadastral map of Berlin, Stadtplan
> > > von Berlin, part 4063/3063, 1:4000 from 1953. (Taken
> > > from T Book, "Angerdorf och Exklav", Vaxjo 1984)
> > >
> > >
http://www.geocities.com/exclaves/Book_Bottcherberg_overlayed.jpg
> > >
> > > I have named the three exclaves (overlayed in red text) and
tried
> > > to hint the photoangles (overlayed in blue) of the following
> > > pictures.
> > >
> > > Picture 01
> > > http://www.geocities.com/exclaves/berlin_bb01_annotated.jpg
> > > This shows the two southern exclaves, looking east. West Berlin
> > > is in the darkness behind a wall to the right. The small chruch
> > > is not visible behind the bushes to the left.
> > >
> > > Picture 02
> > > http://www.geocities.com/exclaves/berlin_bb02_annotated.jpg
> > > This shows the two southern exclaves and parts of West and
> > > East Berlin. I am not quite sure where the borders actually
> > > are (were!). For example, is the border following the wall
> > > to the left, or does it follow the edge of the plaster?
> > >
> > > Picture 03
> > > http://www.geocities.com/exclaves/berlin_bb03_annotated.jpg
> > > This is the same area from another angle. Again the precise
> > > location of the border is difficult to fix. Did the pavement
> > > to the right form part of "Bottcherberg SE" or not? The streets
> > > look newly repaired to me, and I expect this area was part
> > > of the border zone before 1989, when the roads were probably
> > > not covered with plaster.
> > >
> > > Picture 04
> > > http://www.geocities.com/exclaves/berlin_bb04_annotated.jpg
> > > This shows the norther exclave, looking west. Parts of the
> > > churchyard is visible to the left. I think the entire area
> > > was used as a churchyard, at least prior to 1961, but the
> > > northern part was converted to part of the border zone.
> > > Probably at least some of the border installations stood on
> > > this part of West Berlin soil at some time. I wonder
> > > if the East German authorities had any idea about the
> > > exclave?
> > >
> > > Picture 05
> > > http://www.geocities.com/exclaves/berlin_bb05_annotated.jpg
> > > The northern exclave again, this time seen from West Berlin.
> > > Note the extremely narrow gap between "mainland" West Berlin
> > > and the exclave. The hinted borderlines are, of course,
> > > tentative.
> > >
> > > Mats