I tried to link to all those photos, and others yesterday that other
Geocities members posted, and all the looker gets is "this page is not
presently available".
Can you post those photos to the BoundaryPt photos library? I, too,
have been curious for years what these little exclaves looked like - I
have maps with all sorts of variations in the border around this film
center, non of which showed surrounded or detached pieces of West
in East - I could never figure out what exclaves were meant.
Regards
Len Nadybal
--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "anorak222" <wolfi.junkmail@s...> wrote:
> While browsing through old threads ... This is posting #3044.
> Unfortunately the links are dead. Did anyone save the files? Thank
you
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., Mats Hessman <blofeld_es@y...> wrote:
> > Peter Smaardijk wrote:
> >
> > >The situation at where it says "Neu-Babelsberg" is the location
of
> > >the former three Boettcherberg enclaves. I have never seen a map
> of
> > >these (at this time, they didn't exist anymore). How did they
look?
> >
> > I had the opportunity briefly to visit the Bottcherberg-area
> > just the other week.
> >
> > Here is an excerpt from a cadastral map of Berlin, Stadtplan
> > von Berlin, part 4063/3063, 1:4000 from 1953. (Taken
> > from T Book, "Angerdorf och Exklav", Vaxjo 1984)
> >
> > http://www.geocities.com/exclaves/Book_Bottcherberg_overlayed.jpg
> >
> > I have named the three exclaves (overlayed in red text) and tried
> > to hint the photoangles (overlayed in blue) of the following
> > pictures.
> >
> > Picture 01
> > http://www.geocities.com/exclaves/berlin_bb01_annotated.jpg
> > This shows the two southern exclaves, looking east. West Berlin
> > is in the darkness behind a wall to the right. The small chruch
> > is not visible behind the bushes to the left.
> >
> > Picture 02
> > http://www.geocities.com/exclaves/berlin_bb02_annotated.jpg
> > This shows the two southern exclaves and parts of West and
> > East Berlin. I am not quite sure where the borders actually
> > are (were!). For example, is the border following the wall
> > to the left, or does it follow the edge of the plaster?
> >
> > Picture 03
> > http://www.geocities.com/exclaves/berlin_bb03_annotated.jpg
> > This is the same area from another angle. Again the precise
> > location of the border is difficult to fix. Did the pavement
> > to the right form part of "Bottcherberg SE" or not? The streets
> > look newly repaired to me, and I expect this area was part
> > of the border zone before 1989, when the roads were probably
> > not covered with plaster.
> >
> > Picture 04
> > http://www.geocities.com/exclaves/berlin_bb04_annotated.jpg
> > This shows the norther exclave, looking west. Parts of the
> > churchyard is visible to the left. I think the entire area
> > was used as a churchyard, at least prior to 1961, but the
> > northern part was converted to part of the border zone.
> > Probably at least some of the border installations stood on
> > this part of West Berlin soil at some time. I wonder
> > if the East German authorities had any idea about the
> > exclave?
> >
> > Picture 05
> > http://www.geocities.com/exclaves/berlin_bb05_annotated.jpg
> > The northern exclave again, this time seen from West Berlin.
> > Note the extremely narrow gap between "mainland" West Berlin
> > and the exclave. The hinted borderlines are, of course,
> > tentative.
> >
> > Mats