Subject: Re: graded sovereignty?
Date: Mar 27, 2002 @ 18:42
Author: acroorca2002 ("acroorca2002" <orc@...>)
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what
i just gave you the steps
& you gave me their locations
we agree
m

--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., David Mark <dmark@g...> wrote:
> The law almost always crisps things up, so the maritime example is
not in
> practice a gradual fading of sovereignty, but has crisp sharp steps
at
> mean low water mark, at 3 miles, at 12 miles, at 200 miles, etc.
>
> The Florida federal case also was not a gradual boundary in space...
>
> David
>
> On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, m donner wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: David
> > >
> > >Does anyone know of any current or past cases of "graded"
sovereignty,
> > >that is, of one country grading or blending gradually into
another?
> > >
> > >That is, at this point it is 100% "country A", and over there 90%
> > "country
> > >A", 10% "country B". And then 70% "A", 30% "B", then 50-50, then
20%
> > "A",
> > >80% "B", and finally 100% "B"? Sort of a condominium zone in
which one
> >
> > >country gradually gives way to the other?
> >
> >  
> >
> > well isnt this basically what happens in maritime boundary law as
land
> > territory phases into territorial seas & then into eezs & then
into
> > additional continental shelf claims & finally into pure high seas
> >
> > in the course of all which gradual subtractions of national
> > sovereignty are accompanied by corresponding accumulations of
everyonese
> > sovereignty
> >
> > & to think you just said last week that you were not very
interested
> > in such maritime distinctions
> >
> > but hang on for more wiseacrings from me below
> >
> > >
> >
> > >If not at the national level, any examples at the subnational
level?
> >
> >  
> >
> > i think we saw very vividly during the drama of election 2000 how
the
> > sovereignties not only of the state of florida but even of its
individual
> > counties & their individual officials & voters often checked or
even
> > outweighed the sovereignties of supposedly more sovereign
entities than
> > themselves
> >
> > but really what i think you may be grasping at here david is how
the
> > whole notion of national sovereignty is crumbling before our very
eyes as
> > we move into the postmonarchical world 
> >
> > & how its undoing gains momentum as more & more of us ordinary
people
> > realize our personal divinity
> >
> > & how within this evolution is born the idea nay the
inevitability of
> > everyones land
> >
> > m
> >
> > >
> > >David
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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