Subject: The Vatican and the Holy See
Date: Mar 07, 2002 @ 17:57
Author: Ernst Stavro Blofeld (Ernst Stavro Blofeld <blofeld_es@...>)
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Friends,

The author of
www.globalgeografia.com/europa/vaticano_curiosita.htm
and other interesting articels on geographic
curiosities is Mr Vito La Colla of Palermo, Sicily.

He has requested entry to BoundaryPoint, and while we
are waiting for him to join us, he has given me
permission to forward mail messages he has sent me on
the Vatican and other issues. These are his words:

" I am very happy to know the existence of your
Forum about geographic anomalies (enclaves, boundaries
between three or four Countries, and other
curiosities). See my article about Northern America,
in Globalgeografia, in which I write about Four
Corners (Utah, Arizona, Colorado and New Mexico),
with a photograph and a simple map.
I read today some letters about boundaries between
Italy and Vatican City, and I want to take part in
your interesting Forum.
In fact, I am writing a book about Vatican City
State - "Il pi� piccolo Stato del mondo" = The
smallest State in the world. I wrote many and many
pages about these argoments - extraterritorial areas,
zones around St. Peter square, Hall Paul VI, etc. -.
You saw my simple (too simple!) design of areas, maked
to explicate in simple manner these situations.
I looked for exact boundary between France and
spanish enclave of Llivia, in 1990, and between
Switzerland and italian enclave of Campione."

" Vatican City State and Holy See are different
thinks. The first is a State, born for the
independence of Holy See. The second is a sovereign
institution, being also before the born of Vatican
City - before 1929 - . The very small State of Vatican
was born only for public independence of Holy See, and
is subjugated of Holy See.
Therefore, the areas in Rome and in surrounds of
Rome are not territories of Vatican City State (SCV),
but areas under ownership of Holy See. The important
article n� 15 affirms, at the end of his first
paragraphe, "building and properties..*.although being
part of italian territory*..." The 14 extraterritorial
areas are italian soil, included Castel Ganfolfo
palace and gardens. The Vatican City State is only
that which appears in map, enclosed to the Treaty
text.
Second question: why "german exclave in Vatican"?
Teutonic Cemetery? This is surely vatican territory.
Third think: have you in your Internet Point maps
about theese enclave (Jungholz, etc.) and vatican
boundaries? The date of this letter with maps?
I thank you very much, and I apologize you for my
not good english language; I very rarely write texts
in english!"

" 2) The Hall Paul VI - not Paul IV - has not on its
floor marks of the boundary between Italy and SCV. Is
a very strange think, and I don't know the reason of
this decision of architects. Also on the modern walls
of this Hall, outside, there are not any signs.
But I have more and more photos about theese places
(only outside), also of this walls with big oval
windows (of Nervi), and other points of boundary
between Italy - extraterritorial zone - and Vatican
City. I promise that I will send to you, and to your
"boundary address" in next weeks.
3) In an important book published by "Tipografia
poliglotta vaticana", in 1972, we can see the
different maps of the second annex, the 12
extraterritorial areas in Rome and in Castelgandolfo.
I have this book, and I again promise to you to send
theese maps! Yes, the first annex is that accompaning
the text of Treaty.
I noted that the date of your beginning in
BoundaryPoint (7 June) is the same date of beginning
of the Vatican City State. The Treaty of Lateran was
on 11 February, but the ratifications' exchange was
celebrated on 7 od June 1929.
In the Forum of globalgeografia there are also
other my articles, one about railway station of SCV,
and other about Guantanamo, the USA territory of
military base in Cuba, with three coloured maps of the
place."



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