Subject: Vatican - Not Leteran Art. 14, but 4.
Date: Feb 26, 2002 @ 21:38
Author: lnadybal ("lnadybal" <lnadybal@...>)
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--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "shocktm" <andrew@A...> wrote:
> --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "gerardkeating" <gerard@o...> wrote:
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., <marcelmiquel@n...> wrote:
> >
> > > I've found the text of the Lateran treaty on the net. It
> clarifies
> > > status of the extraterritorial possessions.The adress is:
> > >
> > > http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/treaty.htm
> > >
> >
> > From a reading of this text, Is the "Papal Palace of Castel
> Gandolfo"
> > and enclave of the Vatican City State ???
>
> The key articles are #3, #13-16.
>
> Article 3 indicates that "Italy recognizes the full ownership,
> exclusive dominion, and sovereign authority and jurisdiction of the
> Holy See over the Vatican". Key words here are sovereign authority.
> This creates the Vatican City State.
>
> Article #13 and #14 reconginize/give ownership of several buildings
> including Castel Gandolfo. Key wording here ownership and the lack
of
> the words sovereign authority.
>
> Article #15 gives extraterritorial to certin buildings. What rights
> extraterritorial has is dictated by international law.
>
> Article #16 exempts the sites from taxation. The fact that a
> sovereign authority owns land does not exempted it from taxes unless
> agreed to like this. It also exempts the sites from all Italian
> juristiction.
>
> This is where the debate can occur, I see that soverignty has not
> been given to the Holy See over these sites but that Italy has given
> all rights to them to the Holy See and has no recorse on the matter
> unless the Holy See says so. Which means that the sites are
sovereign
> parts of the Holy See in all but name. So one could call them
> enclaves or on could not. As soverignty has not been given (even
> though everything else has been given) I would not call them
> enclaves, but that is my opinon.
>
> -Andrew