Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Q for the Berlin freaks
Date: Jan 26, 2002 @ 18:26
Author: m donner ("m donner" <maxivan82@...>)
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ok john
i get the beer
but well all i know is there is no such thing as dead or death or any of
that
yes a dearth of death for it is nothing
& we know the boundary itself is a ghost
& it really is important to me to comprehend the esthetics & reality of what
everyone likes to contribute here
& perhaps it is also important to others here
& i know you are not alone but perhaps even in the majority here both today
& in general in your liking & contributing things of this vibrational range
so i am seriously asking myself & anyone listening
can anyone express or suggest what they feel is the treasure or value in
this subject
or in any other subject contributed for that matter
since this example did fairly present itself to & for us all to consider
& the feeling tone of us all is actually quite harmonious
m


>From: "John Kelly" <johnkelly@...>
>Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
>To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Q for the Berlin freaks
>Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 15:42:36 -0600
>
>The former Death strip is the former border. It was the space in the
>wall where the soldiers shot you dead for escaping. (I assume you knew
>that already.) Now it is mostly empty fields or valuable real estate.
>Some wall pieces remain (towers, slabs of concrete, fences) but they are
>hardly known about and never in any tourist guide. Nobody cares about
>Communist remains anymore it seems.
>So in order to find any forgotten piece of wall, you simply have to go
>there and look for it. Hence the 50 mile or so hike.
>
>Oh, and they serve some great beer there.
>
> > did i miss something again
> >
> > why is the dearth strip a treasure
> >
> > m
> >
> >
> > >From: "John Kelly" <johnkelly@...>
> > >Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Q for the Berlin freaks
> > >Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 09:03:20 -0600
> > >
> > >Quite a few actually. Along Bernauer Strasse there are still some nooks
> > >and crannies of the wall left. There is even a fleamarket in the former
> > >death strip. Walk towards Chauseestrasse and there is another stretch
>of
> > >Wall still standing. Take the SBahn from Friedrichstrasse towards
> > >Frohnau and you will come out in the former death strip. And the lower
> > >level of Friedrichstrasse station where you will get on is still as it
> > >was in the DDR.
> > >If I remember correctly, there was a section of Wall where the same
> > >train passes from Lichtenrade to Mahlow. That was in 1994 though. And
>of
> > >course there is the East Side Gallery and Niederkirschnerstrasse in
> > >Kreutzberg.
> > >There are some scattered ruins along the Griebnitzsee which are all
> > >graffiti-ed. Beyond that I could suggest taking your hiking boots and
> > >walking the whole length of the former Death Strip. Let us know what
>you
> > >find.
> > >
> > >At any rate check out my virtual museum of Berlin pictures. It's not
>yet
> > >annotated but it has tons of pics. Someday I'll get round to naming
>them
> > >all.
> > >
> > >http://justinkelly.astralvoyager.com/
> > >
> > >Go to "Places" and then "Germany" and have fun. And yes, that arrow was
> > >modelled on East German Avant Garde. (I wrote the program myself.)
> > >
> > >JK
> > >
> > > > I have seen a cheap offer for a few days in Berlin, and I might go
>for
> > >it.
> > > >
> > > > Are there any hidden border treasures that the new Berlin has not
> > >spoiled.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Jesper
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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