Subject: the lost kingdom of the rockies<br/>
Date: Dec 05, 2001 @ 01:17<br/>
Author: michael donner (michael donner &lt;orc@...&gt;)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-1319775298">this topic recently raised by anton<br/>
& initially dismissed by me out of ignorance<br/>
  owing to a coloring mistake in bus&ss fig3 p11<br/>
& then gratefully retrieved by me from the trash<br/>
  as soon as i realized the biblical & personal blunder<br/>
has nevertheless<br/>
  just like antons position itself<br/>
continued to play hard to pin down<br/>
<br/>
  but see pps footnote below<br/>
<br/>
in fact under this new & closer scrutiny of mine  there is now every<br/>
appearance that the department of the interior has been sweeping the entire<br/>
matter under the rug<br/>
<br/>
all the usually crisp maps & tales & citations with lats & longs that one<br/>
expects & almost always gets in bus&ss are missing or fudgy on this entire<br/>
matter<br/>
<br/>
it does appear likely however from what traces can be discerned there that<br/>
the spanish american treaty of 1819 established an esus boundary along the<br/>
arkansas river everywhere west of long w100 & up to its source  & thence<br/>
due north to the 42nd parallel<br/>
& that this line was evidently meant to include an extensive quitclaim or<br/>
cession by the usa to spain of lands east of the continental divide along<br/>
their common frontier  sprawling between modern louisiana & wyoming  which<br/>
the usa had supposedly purchased from france in 1803<br/>
but that  probably due to geographic ignorance  as you can see in fig14<br/>
there was a small area left out of the verbal description in 1819  lying<br/>
north of the source of the arkansas yet also west of the continental divide<br/>
that also broke the intended single land cession into 2 areas  hinging on<br/>
common tripoints with the unexpected & unincluded area<br/>
<br/>
& my careful reconstruction of this area of ignorance has placed it<br/>
actually a bit farther east than my earlier less careful guess  which<br/>
included aspen etc etc  so please forget that part<br/>
since the actual lost area now appears to have shrunken down to only the<br/>
portions of grand & summit & eagle counties east of about wlong 106d25m<br/>
seeing as the shape & extent of it actually appear to be depicted far more<br/>
accurately in fig27 than fig3  for these 2 figs stand in sharp<br/>
contradiction to each other<br/>
& a topozone sawanabori of the arkansas could shave the meridian coords a<br/>
lot closer than i have estimated them above<br/>
<br/>
once texas was annexed to the usa in 1845  this frontier bubble or gap<br/>
became embedded in the usa territory  & by 1861 in colorado territory  etc<br/>
<br/>
ok  there you have the apparent geography & chronology in a nutshell<br/>
but who can add any of the story of this kingdom<br/>
<br/>
m<br/>
<br/>
ps<br/>
another apparent addition to the list of great american nonunited states<br/>
the state of jefferson  1858 to 1861<br/>
which preceded colorado territory & statehood<br/>
& also incorporating the lost kingdom bubble<br/>
<br/>
pps<br/>
& if anton z is correct about anton s<br/>
  & pls confirm if so<br/>
then where is anton z<br/>
etc</div>