Subject: Re: clavoscopy of everyones land advances<br/>
Date: Dec 02, 2001 @ 08:29<br/>
Author: orc@orcoast.com (orc@...)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-1405077124">in 3645 jan said to grant & grant said to jan<br/>
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<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; Jan:<br/>
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&gt; &gt; Thanks for the list. But what about Peter I Isl. (Norway)?<br/>
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&gt; Peter I Island lies south of 60S, and so comes under the terms of the <br/>
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&gt; Antarctic Treaty: we&#39;re therefore thinking of it as part of <br/>
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&gt; Everyone&#39;s Land. <br/>
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&gt; If we ignore the Antarctic Treaty, then Peter I isn&#39;t isolated enough <br/>
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&gt; to form a separate island in the high seas: it is only about 200nm <br/>
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&gt; from the Antarctic mainland. This also applies to the most isolated <br/>
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&gt; island in Antarctic Treaty territory: Scott Island is less than 300nm <br/>
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&gt; from Cape Adare, and so its 200nm zone would link up with the 200nm <br/>
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&gt; zone around Antarctica.<br/>
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&gt; So the whole of Antarctic Treaty territory potentially forms a single <br/>
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&gt; huge EEZ island, cut off from its two closest neighbours: from <br/>
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&gt; the &quot;world mainland&quot; by the Drake Passage, and from South Georgia and <br/>
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&gt; the South Sandwich Islands by the Scotia Sea.<br/>
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 </span></blockquote>i have been wondering about all this<br/>
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it seems to me the antarctic treaty in 1959 actually neutralized <br/>
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not just antarctica but all lands & seas everywhere from lat s60 southward   <br/>
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so even tho eezs & shelf claims & explicitly everyoneized high seas & all the rest of modern maritime law didnt yet exist at that time<br/>
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it is nevertheless just as if everyones land already had territorial seas of not just 12nm but up to several hundreds of nm all the way from its antarctic territorial base north to lat s60<br/>
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so i have a hard time ignoring the antarctic treaty & thinking of the greater antarctic region as a potential eez island when it already seems or rather is an everyonese sovereign territory as far north as lat s60  nor do i believe anyone here is seriously expecting me to ignore this & think that<br/>
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& since everyones land has not been empowered by unclos  as the regular countries have been  to project eezs or shelf claims beyond that lat s60 line  or anywhere at all for that matter  still when the regular countries empowered themselves to claim eezs & shelves  everyones land was given something much better  namely the lions share of the remaining high seas<br/>
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now my maps are primitive as usual but there does appear to be at least one place in the world where the antarctic & maritime regimes are in conflict  so it will make at least a good research & test case  & this is an island or group of unknown name & probably argentine or chilean ownership in drake passage at about long w70 & lat s58  or in other words only about 120nm north of lat s60<br/>
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indeed i can find no other islands in the world less than 200nm north of lat s60  or in other words between lats s56d40m & s60  tho it is hard to believe no others exist<br/>
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anyway the question for this island or group & for any others in this critical 3d20m or 200 minutes of lat or 200nm band is <br/>
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what happens to their eez claim when it reaches lat s60<br/>
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presumably any such  or any other  sovereign rights claims are curtailed & overridden right there at & by lat s60  since the antarctic treaty precedes the unclos convention<br/>
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but if all eez & shelf claims are carved out of the sovereign territorial seas of everyones land in any case  how can an interruption of one kind of sovereign everyones land by another kind of sovereign everyones land possibly cause these claims to stop short or become invalid<br/>
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my answer is this interruption cant reasonably be expected to stop them but it probably will stop them <br/>
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thanx only to the prevailing respect for legal precedence<br/>
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but if the regular countries do respect the sovereignty or dignity that they have accorded to our antarctic human heritage area  then why dont they also respect the identical sovereignty or dignity that they have subsequently accorded to our high seas human heritage area  <br/>
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& suspend not only a part of the otherwise rightful eez of this funny island in drake passage but the entirety of all eez & shelf claims everywhere in the world effective immediately<br/>
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evidently there is no reason why they dont & they wont even see the inconsistency of their position     <br/>
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& upon such an obvious absurdity & catch 22 as this may ride the greatest hope for our just cause of everyonese irredentism all the way back to the 12nm limits of the territorial seas of the rest of the world if not farther<br/>
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