Subject: Re: Where is the enclave?<br/>
Date: Nov 26, 2001 @ 06:12<br/>
Author: orc@orcoast.com (orc@...)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-654389392">way back in message 3925 &lt;marcelmiquel@n...&gt; wrote:<br/>
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<blockquote><span title="ireply"> &gt; I¹ve attached two maps. I assume that this is tertiary enclave, but my <br/>
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&gt; doubt is: if it was a primary one, where would be the mainland and <br/>
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&gt; where the enclave? . As you can see, the municipality¹s capital of <br/>
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&gt; Tremp is  a small territory surronded by another municipality , and <br/>
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&gt; there are three bits of land owned by Tremp, one of them at least 50 <br/>
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&gt; times bigger than the ³mainland². So, my question is: The capital¹s <br/>
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&gt; territory is an enclave ( considering the biggest as the mainland ) or <br/>
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&gt; not? I think it doesn¹t exist a case like this in primary level. I <br/>
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&gt; think the closest one would be Equatorial Guinea.<br/>
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 </span></blockquote>& the matter was briefly entertained in message 3928 by arif before the con=
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versation turned away tho the subject title remained<br/>
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so you are all probably saying  oh no  not this again <br/>
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but we have in fact scarcely begun to talk about it<br/>
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& this my belated response is also dedicated to all the others who have bro=
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ught interesting questions that have also had to wait to be duly or fully en=
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tertained<br/>
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but the maps marcel gave in 3825 seem to indicate there are 5 particles in =
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all of this entity of tremp <br/>
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or whatever it is called in its entirety <br/>
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& arif has observed the natural opposition between capital particle & large=
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st particle in the rare cases like this when they arent the same particle<br/>
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& how this leads to a kind of bifurcation & polarization of the principle o=
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f clavity itself<br/>
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& marcel has rightly pointed to equatorial guinea as primary & best availab=
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le role model of both these phenomena in the world class<br/>
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but for some reason<br/>
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probably only because of the double standard that exists between lands & wa=
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ters generally<br/>
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  & especially between land boundaries & maritime boundaries<br/>
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    as was just observed so poignantly by ray re tuvalu<br/>
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the kingdom of denmark including greenland & at least 2 other particles i a=
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m aware of almost always escapes notice as an even more dramatic example tha=
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n equatorial guinea of both multiple particles & polarized clavities<br/>
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& in this seemingly contrarian or even subversive observation lies the shad=
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owy edge of what normally only the tuvaluans & a few other submergent nation=
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s see in high relief<br/>
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here too we can perhaps begin to embrace all of grants overseas & eez fragm=
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ents as the true claves or ordinary particles that they are<br/>
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& perhaps also become more curious to envision the complete territorial mos=
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aic or mosaics of the world including everyones lands<br/>
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& eventually to reach for a first complete punctoscopy of the world class i=
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n both the eez tripoint & sovereign territorial tripoint formats<br/>
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but in any case i would like to take this opportunity also to promote even =
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more integration & wholism in all our discussions <br/>
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since all is one anyway even while seeming & acting particulate<br/>
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m</div>