Subject: Re: Capitals vs. Borders
Date: Nov 24, 2001 @ 01:43
Author: orc@orcoast.com (orc@...)
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thanx pete we do know why because in addition to what david has offered from van zandt below there is also given on the same page in bus&ss the more proximate cause which is that the ctma commissioners of 1803 who created the jog were only thus resolving the difficulty that caused their predecessor ctma commissioners of 1791 & 1713 to have aborted their attempts to produce the ctma line westward from the connecticut river & this difficulty was actually of a much more local character specifically between the mass town of southwick on the one hand & the conn towns of suffield & granby on the other so to be as faithful to your question as possible it is not so much that mass takes a bite out of conn as that southwick takes a bite each out of suffield & granby & i hope you will appreciate also that all this is here offered in digest rather than verbatim m



--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., David Mark <dmark@g...> wrote:

> "The reason for this peculiar deviation from a straight boundary, known as

> the "Southwick jog," is that in adjusting errors in the boundary line

> beteen Connecticut and Massachusetts as previously run by compass, a long,

> narrow strip of land was given to Connecticut; the southwick jog ceded to

> Massachusetts was intended to be an equivalent are."

>

> Van Zandt, p. 69. Van Zandt is citing Bowen, 1882, p. 65.

>

> David

>

> On Sat, 24 Nov 2001, Pete wrote:

>

> > thank you, i feel very welcome.

> >

> > Now do you know why the along the otherwise-straight border of

> > Connecticut and Massachusetts, Massachusetts takes a little bite out

> > of Connecticut, just north of Hartford? I asked the Governor's office

> > of both states and no one knew, but I'm sure you do.

> >

> >

> > --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., orc@o... wrote:

> > > --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "Pete" <Osafp@p...> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Isn't Trenton, NJ right on the Delaware River boundary w/ PA?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > thank you very much indeed pete

> > >

> > > for presenting us here with our first full circle discussion point

> > >

> > > or global point as it were

> > >

> > > for trenton was where this thread began

> > >

> > > tho it wasnt apparent

> > >

> > > & you could not possibly have known that

> > >

> > > so i hope you will join in the amusement at this happenchance

> > >

> > > & a red carpet welcome to you also for being our third pete & thus

> > also the bringer of our multipetehood

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > sincerely

> > >

> > > m

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > >

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> > > > >

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > > >From: Jane Hanrahan <hanrahan@k...>

> > >

> > > > > >Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@y...

> > >

> > > > > >To: BoundaryPoint@y...

> > >

> > > > > >Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Capitals vs. Borders

> > >

> > > > > >Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 07:12:32 -0400

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > >I'm not sure that the capital city of Providence itself is up

> > >

> > > > against the

> > >

> > > > > >state border at any point...the adjoining city of East

> > Providence

> > >

> > > > is

> > >

> > > > > >though.

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > >Bill

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > >At 05:13 AM 10/3/01, you wrote:

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > >>If we're willing to include state/provincial/regional capitals

> > in

> > >

> > > > > >>this group, then as far as I recall Providence, Rhode Island

> > is

> > >

> > > > right

> > >

> > > > > >>up against the Massachusetts-Rhode Island state border.

> > >

> > > > > >>

> > >

> > > > > >>Asher Samuels

> > >

> > > > > >>asher972@y...

> > >

> > > > > >>Jerusalem, Israel

> > >

> > > > > >>RFC 2549 Implementation Consultant

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