Subject: Re: the abstract and the concrete
Date: Oct 25, 2001 @ 17:30
Author: bjbutler@bjbsoftware.com (bjbutler@...)
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--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., Anton Sherwood <bronto@p...> wrote:
> concerning
> > > http://hotwired.lycos.com/netizen/96/53/special4a.html
>
> (My thought when I first read of the anomaly was that the US
boundary is
> "49th parallel as of 1846" and the Wa boundary is "49th parallel as
of
> 1889". Seems I was almost on the right track.)
>
>
> bjbutler@b... wrote:
> > The written description of the boundary does not matter once it is
> > marked on the ground and agreed to by both parties. This is a
basic
> > tenet of boundaryhood,
>
> ...not consistently followed where rivers shift gradually.
>
> Say, are there any prominent boundaries that have been kinked by
> earthquakes?
>
> > often overlooked by those unfamiliar with such
> > issues, as apparently the lawyers and other combatants mentioned
in
> > the article are. The Canada/Washington boundary is coincident
with
> > the Canada/US boundary and whether this falls exactly on the 49th
> > parallel is irrelevant.
>
> Surely that depends on the wording of the laws/treaties.
> If it was known early on (as the article says) that the US/Can
boundary
> is not accurately 49 degrees, then it's unreasonable to suppose that
> when Washington's constitution forty years later said "49 degrees"
it
> really meant the other line. I'd have expected it to say explicitly
> that Washington's line follows the 1846 line, but evidently it does
not.
>
>
> > Besides, 49th parallel according to what
> > datum? Surely no one would expect boundaries to change just
because
> > the world's ellipsoid is refined.
>
> Agreed, though it seems to me there might be some valid exceptions
to
> that doctrine.
>
> --
> Anton Sherwood