Hello Peter, on the following link it looks like.
a border is shown with the mark "zu Bremerhaven".
But unfortunately the end of the map is reached.
So its just a beginning...
Bye, Chris
http://www.stadtplan.net/brd/bremen/bremerhaven/home.html
Go to the farmost edge NE
----- Original Message -----
From: <smaardijk@...>
To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 7:49 PM
Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: Exclaves of exclaves
| Just to put some guys at ease: Pepijn is right. The GCEBE has had a
| happy and worthy conclusion in Baarle-Nassau. I too was present. So
| the Eagle most surely has landed (..."we've got a bunch of guys about
| to turn blue; we're breathing again").
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| Now on the subject of exclaves of exclaves: how about an exclave of
| the German land Bremen, just NE of Bremerhaven (as is known an
| exclave of Bremen itself): Fehrmoor. I don't have a detailed enough
| map to be sure, but it looks like an exclave. Can someone confirm
| (and possibly give some extra info)?
|
| Peter S.
|
| --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., wertkauf@g... wrote:
| > Hi,
| >
| > is there any information about the fact, that Sark doesnt belong to
| > the U.K., but the U.K. belongs to Sark. I read something like this
| in
| > the following link (in German, sorry).
| >
| > http://www.geldbrief.li/Willkommen/Kurtzsche_Infos/Sark/sark.html
| >
| > bye for now,
| > chris
| >
| > --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "Grant Hutchison" <granthutchison@c...>
| > wrote:
| > > > technically tho
| > > > arent such thingies just quirks of political subdivision
| > > > & isnt an exclave of an exclave still just another exclave of
| the
| > > homeland
| > >
| > > Well, sort of yes, sort of no. People who live on Sark in the
| > Channel
| > > Islands get some of their administration locally, some from
| > Guernsey
| > > (of which Sark is a dependency) and their international politics
| > and
| > > defence from the U.K. (of which Guernsey is a dependency).
| Whereas
| > > Guernsey gets its administration locally and its international
| > > affairs from the U.K. - no intermediate tier of government.
| > > Similarly, if you wanted to land on one of the Ile Glorieuses,
| > you'd
| > > seek permission from Reunion, not directly from France.
| > > So I do feel there's a difference - a sort of sub-letting of
| > > administrative responsibility - which doesn't occur in your
| example
| > > of a higher-order enclave, which is still directly responsible to
| > the
| > > home government. A higher order enclave is only topologically
| > > different from other enclaves, not administratively.
| > >
| > > Grant
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