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Or rather, America could become either a) the 11th Province or
b) the 3rd Territory.
Regarding the Canada-US border south of Vancouver... I drove
along it last Sunday, from the Algergrove crossing to the Peace
Gardens. Much of the border along Zero Avenue is completely
hidden... lots of bush that even surrounds boundary
markers. You can see them every once in a while poking through
the shrubbery. I'm sure I saw the knights who say "Ni!" poking
around the shrubbery as well. But I digress...
No sign of lasers and cameras, although they do exist (I've
seen pics of cameras along the PQ-VE border. But nothing to
the naked eye here -- no wires, poles, clearings, etc, that could be
surveillance gear. Although, perhaps it is very well hidden, hence
being surveillance gear.
Cheers,
Doug
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Date: Thursday,
August 02, 2001 12:26:05 PM
Subject:
[BoundaryPoint] Re: More lax than US-Canada?
Yeah, I wish Canada would just wise up, maybe
even become the 51st
state, and then we could stop all this
nonsense.
BJB
--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., Dallen
Timothy <dtimothy@a...> wrote:
> Jesper, Randy and
others,
> When did Norway and Iceland become part of the
Schengen group?
They're not
> part of the EU as
yet.
>
> I have a couple of pictures of the
Monaco-France border at three
different
> locations.
I'll try to get them made into prints, scanned and sent
out
to
> everyone. Actually this border is easy to spot if
you're looking
for it.
>
> Regarding the
US-Canada border. It isn't as lax as most people
think it
is.
> While it doesn't have the fences and walls as in the
case of the US-
Mexico
> border, it is heavily 'fortified'
otherwise. Laser sensors all
along the
> border
assist border patrol agents in finding illegal crossers,
including
> bears, moose, and elk--although the latter are
usually not
arrested. When
> the lasers are tripped,
ground patrol vehicles are dispatched to
search for
>
crossers, and in more remote locations, helicopters are sent
out.
If a
> person crosses the border away from an
official crossing point and
doesn't
> report at the
nearest immigration office, he/she could be fined
thousands
of
> dollars and spend years in prison. Likewise, laws
and regulations
create a
> rather difficult barrier as
well, especially for people whose homes
and
> yards are
bisected by the border. While there are few actual
physical
> barriers on the US-Canada border, there are
significant legal
barriers,
> laser sensors, and patrol
vehicles and personnel that make it a
fairly
> fortified
boundary.
> Brian Butler mentioned his recent trip to the
International Peace
Garden.
> I've done quite a lot of
research in that area, and it's hard to
believe the
>
terrible headaches that are created on a daily basis for the
park
> superintendents and personnel managers--they're
constantly fighting
legal
> battles, immigration-related
personnel problems, country-specific
> environmental
conservation issues, insurance claims, binational tax
>
problems, etc. This is why the Peace Garden is unable to keep
a
> superintendent on staff for more than a few years at a
time--too
much legal
> fighting over and along the
US-Canada border. From the tourist's
> perspective it is
a peace garden, but from the organization's
perspective
it
> is a constant battle--visitors don't see that side of
it.
>
> Anyway, just a few observations on my
part.
>
> Dallen
>
>
>
>
>
>
-----Original Message-----
> From: Jesper & Nicolette
Nielsen [mailto:jesniel@i...]
> Sent: Thursday, August 02,
2001 11:10 AM
> To: BoundaryPoint@y...
> Subject: Re:
[BoundaryPoint] More lax than US-Canada?
>
>
>
> Randy,
>
> Within the Schengen countries
(Iceland, Finland, Norway, Sweden,
Denmark,
> Germany,
Netherlands, Belgium, France, Luxembourg, Austria, Spain,
Portugal,
> Italy, Greece) as a rule there are no guarded
borders, and you can
travel
> freely crossing the border
whereever you want.
>
> Most miniature countries
like Monaco, the Vatican etc do also not
have
> guarded
borders. In fact it should be quite hard even to spot the
Monacon
> border! Can anybody produce a
picture?
>
> Jesper
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Randy
Finder <mailto:naraht@D...>
> To:
BoundaryPoint@y... <mailto:BoundaryPoint@y...>
>
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 5:04 PM
> Subject:
[BoundaryPoint] More lax than US-Canada?
>
> I was
reading the article on the fences on InPk and the to be built
> on InBa. It hit me that at least to USAians, the other end
of the
> scale is the US-Canadian border. However that still
has guards. Are
> there other borders (perhaps inside the
EU?) where the borders are
> treated more lightly and less
well guarded than USCA?
>
> Randolph Finder
>
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