Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: markers on river banks
Date: Aug 02, 2001 @ 00:44
Author: Brendan Whyte ("Brendan Whyte" <brwhyte@...>)
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>From: "Peter Smaardijk" <smaardijk@...>_________________________________________________________________
>Reply-To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
>To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: markers on river banks
>Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 21:20:53 -0000
>
>I've seen this zigzag thing before in a German street atlas (a
>municipal boundary in the Falk Berlin one), and suspect (although
>this is a bit of a wild guess) that it is the result of the fact that
>the paper map is based on a digital file, that can't depict two
>segments (linear features) that are exactly on top of one another
>(like in this case a road and a boundary). If this situation is the
>real one, it should be described in detail in the boundary treaty. I
>doubt this is the case, to be frank. I don't see the point of it...
>
>But I have been wrong before.
>
>Peter S.
>
>--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., "Jesper & Nicolette Nielsen"
><jesniel@i...> wrote:
> > Placing of an indirect marker is also done in Denmark, still with a
>plate on the road. Example at my site:
>http://www.geocities.com/graenser/rudboel8.html
> >
> > But was is Peter H's map showing the zig zag rather than a middle
>line?
> >
> > Jesper
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Peter Hering
> > To: BoundaryPoint@y...
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 6:15 PM
> > Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: markers on river banks
> >
> >
> > Yes Peter S,
> > I fully agree with you on that definition of
> > the DeNl "neutral roads" - I, too consider
> > the middle of the road being the actual
> > boundary line - the markers on either side
> > just being "Abzielsteine/indirekte Vermarkung".
> > so I suggest the jurisdiction is divided between
> > De and Nl ... depending on which side of the road
> > you are...
> > Quite useful to know, btw - if we get a ticket for
> > speeding on the "Heringsbosch" road... what
> > are the "rates" in Nl and Ge??
> > CU soon!
> > Best regards - hilsener - Gr�sse - groeten
> > Peter H.
> >
> > -------Original Message-------
> >
> > From: Peter Smaardijk
> > Date: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 15:33:03
> > To: BoundaryPoint@y...
> > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: markers on river banks
> >
> > I think it's the same as in Europe. The only thing that
>puzzles me
> > are the boundary markers along the delu condominial rivers.
>They make
> > less sense to me, because the condominium boundary can
>easily be
> > marked at the exact location of the boundary. Maybe they
>are a bit
> > further up the river bank to protect them from flooding?
>But in that
> > case they could have been placed higher up still, because
>where they
> > are standing now they are not secure, too.
> >
> > BTW: Wolfgang mentions exactly the same purpose for these
>markers as
> > you do: "indirekte Vermarkung, auch Abzielsteine" (see
> >
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/files/delu/BorderPointemai
> > l.doc ).
> >
> > The "neutral roads" along denl are a bit like rivers, too,
>with the
> > boundary marker pairs on both side of them. I think in
>these cases
> > the boundary follows the middle of the road, but you don't
>want to
> > but your markers there, of course.
> >
> > Peter S.
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@y..., Dallen Timothy <dtimothy@a...>
>wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Everyone,
> > > Some of the recent discussions on markers along the banks
>of border
> > rivers
> > > has intrigued me. I'm not sure about why they are located
>along
> > some rivers
> > > in Europe, but along US-Canada riverine borders, border
>markers are
> > located
> > > along the riverfronts. They are erected and maintained by
>the
> > International
> > > Boundary Commission. Maybe the best example is the
>Detroit River
> > between
> > > Michigan and Ontario. The purpose of these 'border
>markers' is not
> > to mark
> > > the precise location, but instead to serve as reference
>points that
> > can
> > > assist surveyors in finding the exact border in the
>river. Maybe
> > they have
> > > the same purpose in Europe. What do you think?
> > >
> > > Dallen
> >
> >
> >
> >
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