well harry seems to have found at least part of
another marker
possibly
the second of a pair of belu terminal mates
http://home. planet.nl/ ~veenhh/borderla nd/europa/ be-fr-lu. htm
&
your map seems to indicate this pair is called belu
marker number 1
http://f1.grp. yahoofs.com/ v1/wK0fRdkFqBPjO xnfudOgvwGBsPhCZ -Riej-F60nlctXd2 Y0uHLWfmeXlMya9X r0sHDbThD_ 3_OlaFZFobavCnwu bDktRBeA/ befrlu.jpg
&
their exact positions could be quite telling
come to think of it
even if
they are indirect rather than direct
as i suppose
since they might still
have been precisely placed
at either side of the exact end of belu
one in
belgium & the other in luxembourg it seems
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/BoundaryPo int/message/ 3979
&
hence directly athwart the exact tripoint
at least at the time of their
installation in the 19th
century
& possibly still today
also i
now realize i was slightly mistaken about not
having seen the wording in any
of the treaties
since there is this
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/BoundaryPo int/message/ 3975
&
this too
http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/BoundaryPo int/message/ 4015
which
indicates a change in the frlu convergent
& thus possibly in the
tripoint position as well
was in the works around the time of your
visit
which thus may or may not have been
subsequently
consummated
so perhaps the tripoint was then
or is
today
not the exact confluence after all
yikes
& it may well be
worth keeping this an open question
til we do have all the necessary &
current data in
hand
--- Jesper Nielsen/Borderbase <jesper@nicolette. dk>
wrote:
>No other markers were found.
>we were tired
> But it was an awfull wet day, and
> after a week on the road.accessable place in central Europe so I
>
> It's a very
> am surprised nobody elseactually explored it also.
>
>href="mailto:BoundaryPoint%40yahoogroups.com">BoundaryPoint@ yahoogroups. com
> Jesper
>
> _____
>
> Fra:
>[mailto:BoundaryPoint@ yahoogroups. com] På
> vegne af aletheia kallos19:22
> Sendt: 30. september 2006
> Til:href="mailto:BoundaryPoint%40yahoogroups.com">BoundaryPoint@ yahoogroups. com
>Emne: Re: SV: SV: [BoundaryPoint] BEFRLU
>agree
>
>
> i
> it looks like a belu marker to me alsoit in belgian territory
> & i too place
> since it is in the crotch between the befr& belu
> streamsis the end of
>
> but what it is actually witnessing
> belume
> naturally enough
> it seems to
> & not the end of befrnearby
> which also happens to end there
> it is true
> but probably has a different terminal marker
>neighborhood
> so it doesnt strike me as strange at all
>
> in fact i think you reported some other markers in
> the
>
><jesper@nicolette.
> --- Jesper Nielsen/Borderbase
> <mailto:jesper% 40nicolette. dk>dk>
> wrote:in line with
>
> > I think Harry argument was something
> itwrong territory.
> > being the wrong marker
> > on the
> >marker is in BE,
> > If the confluence is the tp, the
> somarker is is strange - it does appears to be a
> > if the marker is a FRLU
> >
> BELUmarker
> >
> > (href="http://www.nicolett">http://www.nicolett
><http://www.nicolett e.dk/borderbase/ border.php? c1=12>
>e.dk/borderbase/ border.php? c1=12
> >href="http://www.nicolett">http://www.nicolett
> <
><http://www.nicolett e.dk/borderbase/ border.php? c1=12&c2= 87>
>e.dk/borderbase/ border.php? c1=12&c2= 87>
> >&c2=87) . I
> > think the FRLU are concrete blocks.your online guide to international
> >
> > Jesper
> >
> > --
> > Borderbase -
> > borders and tripointshref="http://www.nicolette.dk/borderbase">http://www.nicolett e.dk/borderbase> e.dk/borderbase
> > http://www.nicolett
> <
> ><mailto:BoundaryPoi nt%40yahoogroups .com>
> >
> > _____
> >
> > Fra: BoundaryPoint@
>
>yahoogroups. com
> > [mailto:BoundaryPoi nt@<mailto:BoundaryPoi nt%40yahoogroups .com>
>
>yahoogroups. com] På
> > vegne af aletheia kallosSendt: 29. september 2006 22:40
> >
> > Til: BoundaryPoint@<mailto:BoundaryPoi nt%40yahoogroups .com>
>
>yahoogroups. com
> > Emne: Re: SV: [BoundaryPoint] BEFRLUcourse stand by for any further
> >
> >
> >
> > great
> > i will of
> > clarifications from europestill havent seen any of the 3
> > but looking on from this side of the pond
> > & so long as we
> > treatiesadded & in fact best available map
> > your newly
> > enlargedhere
> >
> > http://article.<http://article. gmane.org/ gmane.culture. discuss.boundary -point/9339>
> >
> <http://article.
>
>gmane.org/gmane. culture.discuss. boundary- point/9339>
> >gmane.org/gmane. culture.discuss. boundary- point/9339
>
> >does show the tripoint precisely at the stream
> > confluencea
> >
> > & no matter if we can or cant yet pinpoint it on
> > satpic reallyidentify the name of this
> >
> > nor that we cant yet
> tinyground
> > tributary creek
> >
> > for i do think we have at last nailed it on the
> >
> ><jesper@nicolette.
> > --- Jesper Nielsen/Borderbase
> ><mailto:jesper% 40nicolette. dk> dk>
> >wrote:
> >actual
> > > I agree, satpic too unclear.
> > >
> > > On GCEBE 2001 we had much discussion of the
>
> > > tripoint, as Peter's mapparallel with the stream. Parallel
> > > showed BEFR
> > withstream goes a
> > > BEFR
> > > fence, which could have been the trueborder.
> Butnot
> > we
> > > all know maps are
> > > made for freaks and some times borders are knownfeatures.
> > to
> > > be off the line to show
> > > other
> > >marker was the
> > > Harry seemed to believe the
> actualthe
> > > tripoint. Not sure of
> > > argument. Maybe he can explain again.and tripoints
> > >
> > > Jesper
> > >
> > > --
> > > Borderbase - your online guide to international
> > > borders
> > >href="http://www.nicolett">http://www.nicolett
> > <href="http://www.nicolett">http://www.nicolett
> <href="http://www.nicolette.dk/borderbase">http://www.nicolett e.dk/borderbase>
>e.dk/borderbase>
> e.dk/borderbaseBoundaryPoint@
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > Fra:
> ><mailto:BoundaryPoi nt%40yahoogroups .com>
> >yahoogroups. com
> > > [mailto:BoundaryPoi nt@<mailto:BoundaryPoi nt%40yahoogroups .com>
> >
> >yahoogroups. com] På
> > > vegne af aletheia kallosBoundaryPoint@
> > > Sendt: 29. september 2006 18:50
> > > Til:
> ><mailto:BoundaryPoi nt%40yahoogroups .com>
> >yahoogroups. com
> > > Emne: Re: [BoundaryPoint] BEFRLUagain
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > bravo
> > > this is a new state of play here if i am nothref="http://lb.wikipedia">http://lb.wikipedia
> > > mistaken
> > >
> > > <href="http://lb.wikipedia">http://lb.wikipedia
> > <href="http://lb.wikipedia">http://lb.wikipedia
> <href="http://lb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:3L">http://lb.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Image:3L>
>.org/wiki/Image: 3L>
> > .org/wiki/Image: 3L>at least it is for me
> > > .org/wiki/Image: 3LännereckRodange 01.jpg
> > > or
> > >the above pic correctly
> > > for if i am reading
> > > then we are looking at a much morepronounced
> > streampreviously supposed
> > > confluence than i had
> existedis
> > > there
> > >
> > > for it now seems to me that the river chiers
> > > carrying
> > > the belu convergent across the foreground
> being=== message truncated ===
>