Sure. I reached the same conclussion after visiting the cz site.

Jesper

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Sendt: 26. september 2006 20:00
Til: boundarypoint@yahoogroups.com
Emne: [BoundaryPoint] atczde retry

this is a little silly of me since you have already
been there in the flesh jesper

but using the trusty looking czech map overlay &
satpic in combination
& then comparing the result with google earth
i was able to nail the clearing i think you mean
as shown in the attached revised tripoint stretching
diagram
as well as here
http://mapy. seznam.cz/ ?mapType= ophoto&zoom= 15&centerX= 138977024& centerY=13077561 6&portWidth= 682&portHeight= 529&forceMapPara ms=1#centerX= 131671392@ centerY=13128668 8@typ=ophoto@ zoom=16@vizType= none@vizIds= none
if this link actually works as intended

& if this is indeed correct
then my earlier guess or rather grope try as shown
here
http://article. gmane.org/ gmane.culture. discuss.boundary -point/9246
proves to have been about 100 meters or so off

--- In BoundaryPoint@ yahoogroups. com, aletheia kallos
<aletheiak@. ..> wrote:

>
> yes &

this is a case where arturs new czech satpix
are

> much clearer than

the google earth

> & indeed actually show some clearings
>
> so have a better look for the right stuff here if

you

>

href="http://mapy.seznam.cz/">http://mapy. seznam.cz/

> to confirm

or improve

>
> --- Jesper Nielsen/Borderbase

<jesper@...>

> wrote:
>
> > This difficult ATCZDE is

based on personal visit
and

> > location in a clearing.
> >
> > Jesper
> >
> > --
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> >

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> >
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> > Emne: [BoundaryPoint] atczde if not also atchde

but

> > dont

forget atczsk in

> > between
> >
> >
> >
> > it was easy to decide atczde comes before atchde
> >

alphabetically as soon as i realized that that is
in

> > fact the

order observed by the magically
mysterious

> > borderbase

itinerary

> >
> > moreover this reverse logic & method

are
buttressed

> > by
> > the madness we have already been

practicing from
the

> > very start of the tour
> > in our

special preference & promotion of
afghanistan

> > as in af
> > ahead of andorra as in ad
> > & our quiet demotion

of the united arab emirates
as

> > in
> > ae
> >

not merely until after afghanistan but even beyond

> > ukraine
> > not to mention the totally unwarranted favoritism
> > extended

toward algeria as in dz

> > thanx only to the spelling of its english

nickname

> > etc
> > etc
> >
> >

yikes

> >
> > but happily we can do whatever we like
> > & are doing just that
> > here in oesterreich
> > as

in at

> >
> > which is why we have wound up at atczde

next
rather

> > than atchde
> >
> > both of which

btw

> > tho scarcely pronounceable as well as semantically
> >

vacuous

> > to the best of my knowledge
> > must at least

rhyme equally well with cratchity

> >
> > & all this on a

rather overcast day for a satpic
on

> > the one hand
> >

& at an impossibly wet place to even try to find
on

> > the

other

> >
> > but for starters if not also enders
> > check out the first of the attached tripoint
> > stretching

diagrams

> >
> > the best available czech zoomable map
> > http://geoportal.
> >
>

<http://geoportal. cenia.cz/ mapmaker/ cenia/map/ ?wiz_id=21& wiz_special_ param=&

> >
>

rect=-920000: -1260000: -420000:- 910000?=cz& PHPSESSID= &win_size= 2>

> >
>

cenia.cz/mapmaker/ cenia/map/ ?wiz_id=21& wiz_special_ param=&rect= -920000:- 1260

> >

000:-420000: -910000?= cz&PHPSESSID= &win_size= 2

> > places atczde smack on a ridge saddle
> > & i was able to

grope this point down with my
mouse

> > at
> >

google

> > hence the location of the little red tripoint
> >

stretching square in the midst of otherwise

> > completely
> >

opaque woods

> >
> > & as for atchde
> > the

hypothetical equidistance tripoint in the
middle

> > of lake

constance

> > well i suppose we could measure & compute it

from

> > scratch
> > but you may recall we do already have a

reasonably

> > good fix on it
> > that was picked up from a

tactical pilotage chart
by

> > grant hutchison
> > so we

could well be content to just plot that
beside

> > the google

version for now

> > in view of the fact that it will undoubtedly

fall
in

> > the middle of nowhere anyway
> > & like why

fuss any more than minimally necessary
in

> > this especially

imponderable case

> >
> > so
> > converting grants

values to degminsec

> > i get
> > n lat 47d32m21s31 & e

long 9d33m35s40

> > & have expressed that preliminary guess on

the

> > second
> > attachment
> > just as a possible

alternative to jespers &
googles

> > guesses
> > &

in the hopes that someone might find a way to

> > improve on us

all

> >
> > so thats that
> > or really thats

them

> >
> > & so next will come lucky atczsk
> > between atczde & atchde
> > alphabetically
> > but

also doubling back to some extent

> >
> > & then we will

again be completely where we are

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