Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: stretching the quest for a real stretchable latex tripoint to stretch
Date: Sep 26, 2006 @ 00:43
Author: Lowell G. McManus ("Lowell G. McManus" <lgm@...>)
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Please see my insertions below.

Lowell G. McManus
Leesville, Louisiana, USA


----- Original Message -----
From: "aletheia kallos" <aletheiak@...>
To: <boundarypoint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 1:27 AM
Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] Re: stretching the quest for a real
stretchable latex tripoint to stretch


> hahaha
> & no wonder it took you so long to get ready
> with all that extra erudition you had to pack in


Oh, does the pot call the kettle black? :-)


> but you have at least shown that the west bank of
> bayou pierre lake
> at
> bayou pierre settlement
> is as much a geographical impossibility
> or lets say as seemingly casual a definition
> as
> the sabine river at n32x94w was
>
> so that fits right in to the overall picture
>
> except in this case the perpetrator should have known
> better


Nemesio Salcedo was the Commandant General of the Spanish forces in the
Provincias Internas (Texas, Coahuila, Nueva Vizcaya, Nuevo México,
Sinaloa, Sonora, Alta California, and Baja California). His
headquarters were in Chihuahua. Bayou Pierre Lake was probably not high
on his list of concerns.


> so what are we to do
> who also know better
>
> for it is one kind of fun to take a total ignoramus at
> his literal word
> & indeed it can even be necessary to do so in boundary
> rationalizations


An excellent term for what this required!


> but quite another kind of fun to take a simple slob at
> his literal word
>
> yet having already tried the northernmost &
> southernmost points of bayou pierre lake for no
> particularly good reasons
> how could i not leap to the westernmost point also
> when a seemingly good reason is actually provided by
> the delimitator in chief
>
> well
> for one thing there is my inherent laziness in such a
> case as this
>
> but then too there is the logjam raft to invoke again
> which is widely reported to have raised the water
> levels in those days


Good point, but... The elevation of the current surface of the swamp
which is PB Lake seems to range from about 128 to almost 135 feet. This
is still 115 feet below the level of the BP settlement (Carmel). I will
grant you that the lake was probably higher in 1806, but a level of 140
feet would have flowed over all of the land between there and the Red
River. Floods of that sort happened, of course, so I'll give you 150
feet. That would have extended the flooded lake another mile up the
pointy valley of Buffalo Bayou, but it would still be a hundred feet
lower than the settlement.


> & i would guess in this case it must have extended
> bayou pierre lake much closer to the outskirts of the
> actual settlement
> so that it more nearly lived up to its name
> as the settlement on bayou pierre lake
> as well as extending the lake perhaps several miles
> farther southwest up buffalo bayou at flood times
>
> & i would like to think that with this new
> imponderability now superimposed on our already pretty
> sketchy picture
> there would not be much point in trying to refine my
> latest guessed neutral ground closing line
> since it already ran right up buffalo bayou anyway


That's a very good point. It was you who wanted a tripoint. If you are
satisfied with the one that you have, that's fine with me.


> so i think again we have probably already stretched
> this elastic a good deal farther than was actually
> possible anyway
> & i will rest my lalatxtx try where it presently sits
> on my way back to bolivia


¡Buen viaje!