Subject: Re: Île Verte<br/>
Date: Jul 12, 2006 @ 17:36<br/>
Author: XML (&quot;XML&quot; &lt;x.maillard@...&gt;)<br/>
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<div id="ygrps-yiv-627016767">Hi again,<br/>
<br/>
As I suggested about the channel in my last message I just sent to <br/>
BP today evening, here we are :<br/>
<br/>
Utrecht Treaty:<br/>
&quot;Le Roi de la Grande-Bretagne, en cédant les Iles de Saint-Pierre et <br/>
de Miquelon à la France, les regarde comme cédées à fin de servir <br/>
réellement d&#39;abri aux pêcheurs François, et dans la confiance <br/>
entière que ces possessions ne deviendront point un objet de <br/>
jalousie entre les deux nations ; et que la pêche entre les dites <br/>
îles, et celle de Terre-Neuve, sera bornée à mi-canal.&quot;<br/>
<br/>
= &lt;The King of Great Britain, in ceding the Islands of St. Pierre <br/>
and Miquelon to France, regards them as ceded for the purpose of <br/>
serving as a real shelter to the French fishermen, and in full <br/>
confidence that these possessions will not become an object of <br/>
jealousy between the two nations, and that the fishery between the <br/>
said islands, and that of Newfoundland shall be limited to the <br/>
middle of the channel.&gt;<br/>
<br/>
Islands of St. Pierre and Miquelon should be understood as St.Pierre <br/>
island, Miquelon island, and the other dependencies (Vainqueurs <br/>
island, Chiens island, Colombier island etc.)<br/>
<br/>
The fishery was limited by what is to be considered as a sea <br/>
boundary line, to the middle of the channel. So our boundary line <br/>
was there. And according to a 1907 chart, the channel crossed Green <br/>
Island.<br/>
This chart was used to establish the turning points of the 1972 <br/>
agreement. The phrase &#39;French channel&#39; refers to this channel, <br/>
between SPM and NFLD.<br/>
<br/>
As the 1907 French chart was used by both Canadians and French <br/>
diplomats for the 1972 agreement, we can consider it worthed <br/>
something official. And through this, Green Island divided between <br/>
France and NFLD was also not unofficial. And we had our dry border.<br/>
<br/>
As this Utrecht treaty boundary line was actually a fishery limit, <br/>
i.e. a sea boundary line, we can consider the 1972 changed it.<br/>
And that IMHO the current Sea boundary line also determines the <br/>
border, so defitaly as written in previous messages all the rocks <br/>
are Canadians (the 2 turning points making two wet/dry FRCA boundary <br/>
shorepoints).<br/>
<br/>
Unless Canadian Hydrographic Service charts 4490 and 405 shows <br/>
another situation, this &#39;analysis&#39; in my opinion closes this topic <br/>
regarding a FRCA land boundary in the Green Island / Ile Verte area.<br/>
<br/>
Xavier<br/>
<br/>
BTW I flew over ending [&#39;turning&#39;] point 9 of this 1972 FRCA sea <br/>
boundary agreement two months.<br/>
<br/>
--- In <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com">BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com</a>, &quot;acroorca2002 &lt;orc@...&gt;&quot; <br/>
&lt;orc@...&gt; wrote:<br/>
<blockquote><span title="qreply"> &gt;<br/>
&gt; thanx martin<br/>
&gt; it makes sense<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; that long eez tube is after all barely enclaved in the canadian eez<br/>
&gt; isnt is<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; also doug <br/>
&gt; as you are actively seeking the right map from the canadian govt<br/>
&gt; i hope you have noted in the info below<br/>
&gt; that you probably cant do better than the mentioned<br/>
&gt; canadian chart number 4490<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; this with the precisely plotted points<br/>
&gt; is probably the most definitive available answer to your question<br/>
&gt; at mean sea level anyway<br/>
&gt; <br/>
&gt; vis tecum </span></blockquote></div>