OK - http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/CZPLSK/DSCN2098.jpg is taken from very close to the stream confluence and http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/CZPLSK/DSCN2099.jpg shows the top of the handrail that is in DSCN2098 and you can just see the Polish obelisk peeking from behind the greenery in that photo. http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/CZPLSK/DSCN2100.jpg is taken from right beside the top of the handrail.

Putting these photos and my memory together I would say 27 metres would be a good estimate, especially when you compare it to the 16 metres that you say is the distance between the CZ and PL obelisks.

Unfortunately I never saw the SK obelisk so couldn't estimate that distance. However, if you look at http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/CZPLSK/DSCN2097.jpg, which is taken from the stream confluence up the hill towards Slovakia you will just see an SK marker (white with red top) peeking out from behind the greenery towards the left of the photo. I think this is probably the twin of the PL marker in http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/CZPLSK/DSCN2100.jpg although I cannot confirm that since I did not note down the numbers. Nevertheless with all the matched pairs of markers I observed along both banks of the stream it is plainly evident to me that the stream plays a critical role in forming the PLSK border upstream and the CZSK border downstream,

From: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of aletheia kallos
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Subject: RE: [BoundaryPoint] czplsk practically found

thanx

how far would you guess it is from them

& how far from the sk obelisk

--- Hugh Wallis <hugh@our-own- home.com> wrote:

> The stream confluence is approximately equidistant
> from the CZ and PL
> obelisks. You can't really tell that from any of the
> photos but you can if
> you go there in person.
>
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> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] czplsk practically found
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> if you would look again at this pic of the cz & pl
> obelisks
> http://freepages.
>
<http://freepages. misc.rootsweb. com/~hughwallis/ CZPLSK/DSCN2103. jpg>
> misc.rootsweb. com/~hughwallis/ CZPLSK/DSCN2103. jpg
> & realize that the official measurements place the
> tripoint not much farther down the hill than the 2
> obelisks are distant from each other
> or roughly 27 meters as against 16
> then you can practically
> s e e
> the legal tripoint position within frame
> or not very far out of view beneath the curvature of
> the hill
>
> nor would this position even seem to lie among the
> thicker veggies yet
>
> perhaps it is not at all far beyond the last of the
> signs & poles
>
> other views of the area just below the obelisks
> confirm this overall impression of an open clearing
> covering most if not all these 27 meters
> http://www.vasa.
> <http://www.vasa. abo.fi/users/ rpalmber/ CzPlSk2.jpg>
> abo.fi/users/ rpalmber/ CzPlSk2.jpg
> http://www.vasa.
> <http://www.vasa. abo.fi/users/ rpalmber/ CzPlSk1.jpg>
> abo.fi/users/ rpalmber/ CzPlSk1.jpg
> http://freepages.
>
<http://freepages. misc.rootsweb. com/~hughwallis/ CZPLSK/DSCN2099. jpg>
> misc.rootsweb. com/~hughwallis/ CZPLSK/DSCN2099. jpg
>
> now correct me if i am wrong but my sense at least
> of
> the stream confluence is that it lies in deep woods
> a
> good deal farther down the hill than any of these
> scenes even extend
>
> & unless i am mistaken about that
> then it certainly appears now
> even without having to wait for winter or any retry
> that either the stream confluence tripoint
> positioning
> or the official measurements of the tripoint
> positioning must be wrong
>
> i can scarcely wait for the next try based on these
> data tho
>
> or else for these measurements to somehow get busted
> in favor of the confluence position
> for i agree it still seems a reasonable enough
> hypothesis
> had it not been for these pesky data that seem to
> rule
> it out
>
> but please do amplify the impression or correct any
> wrong impression in any of this if you can
>
> like how far would anyone guess the confluence
> actually is from the pair of obelisks
>
> etc
>
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