but actually in reverse order since the latter may be
a show stopper
especially seeing as i havent yet procured gps anyway
have also realized they both might be neither 4foot
tall 1909 models nor 2 to 3foot tall 1860 models
but yikes 1731 models
this is a very low to the ground style
& thus highly elusive
as we have seen at the former ctmany tripoint
aka the missing pointy tip of the sw corner of
massachusetts
where the only known 1731 example nevertheless
survives
& which is today entirely in ny
but first to the cornwall free library to print the
topos
beeps
Re: out looking for us2ctny3duli4amkesh
many thanxxx mike
glad you liked it
& am encouraged by your interesting convergence of
dates there too
i guess the whole neighborhood got a burst of
development during this period
also
after posting the full color google satpic
i recalled the black & white terraserver images are
actually much better
http://terraserver-usa.com/image.aspx?T=1&S=12&Z=18&X=779&Y=5784&W=1&qs=%7ckent%\
7cct%7c
& this one clearly indicates the tripoint location
some 50 yards east of the pipeline trail rather than
in the middle of the imaginary clearcut
& a similarly short distance south of a distinctive
sharp bend in the trail
so with these improved data i ought to be able to zero
in better
even without necessarily resorting to gps
& will retry both markers 32 & 24 & report back soon
--- spookymike@... wrote:
> Mike: Nice writeup. I entered the coords of the
> marker you were seeking
> on the USGS benchmark site
> (http://www.ngs.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/ds_radius.prl)
> using a radius of 2.0 miles and found writeups for
> several markers, some of 1860s
> vintage. Unfortunately, there was no listing at
> the coords of your marker.
> Three markers, namely Clarks, Hitchcock, and Lambert
> all date to the 1860s,
> and from the descriptions, may be recoverable even
> today. Good hunting.
>
> Mike Schwartz
>
>
> In a message dated 5/15/06 12:22:09 PM,
> BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com writes:
>
>
> > Message 1
> > From: "aletheia kallos" aletheiak@...
> > Date: Sun May 14, 2006 7:15pm(PDT)
> > Subject: Re: out looking for us2ctny3duli4amkesh
> >
> > in a nutshell
> > the prize was elusive & i am still recuperating a
> day
> > later
> >
> > but the full report & retry plan may be of some
> > interest
> > so i will proceed with that or them below also
> >
> >
> > the only thing is
> > having multiplied myself in earnest by at least
> 2006
> > as you may already know
> > i find i am enjoying simultaneous enthusiasms at
> the
> > moment for several other things as well
> > so i will give only a foreshortened complete
> report
> > for now
> >
> > but will of course add more detail if it is indeed
> of
> > any interest to anyone but me
> >
> >
> >
> > tho my approach to the jumpoff point less than a
> dozen
> > miles from home was complicated by getting lost on
> > back roads en route to it
> > as well as by my decision to make the try without
> any
> > navigation aids
> > i did finally reach & recognize the preselected
> > parking place
> > where clark hill road crosses the state line
> > as shown on the topo that may still be linked to
> the
> > original post here near the bottom
> >
> > the large clearing depicted was in reality fenced
> &
> > posted but deserted
> >
> > & the underground gas pipeline was indicated &
> signed
> > with additional warnings
> >
> > i parked on the road just east of the standard
> 1909
> > ctny roadstone that i was not at all surprised to
> find
> > there protruding about 4 feet above the ground as
> is
> > typical
> >
> > the driveway that is depicted heading southeast
> from
> > clark hill road alongside the pipeline was gated &
> > locked
> >
> > but thru an unexpected break in the barbed wire &
> > bushes
> > i managed to pick my way into the broad clearing
> > which i took to be or to include the pipeline
> clearcut
> > & which led me easily southward just inside
> > connecticut toward where the topo shows the
> clearcut
> > narrowing & starting its descent & zigzag course
> > across the state line
> >
> > but in fact the clearing doesnt narrow there into
> > anything remotely like the deforested cut depicted
> on
> > the topo
> >
> > for the topo is flat wrong about that
> > as a later peek i got at the google satpic also
> > confirmed
> >
>
http://maps.google.com/?ll=41.799343,-73.498278&spn=0.031417,0.058537&t=h&
> > om=1
> >
> > but instead of leading to any such narrow clearcut
> > the cleared area simply ends at about that point &
> > feeds there into a woodland trail that does
> however
> > pretty much follow the depicted pipeline route
> >
> > & tho it zigzags a good deal more than the
> pipeline
> > depiction does
> > i could follow it without difficulty across both
> of
> > the brooks shown
> > exactly as i had expected to be able to follow the
> > clearcut across them
> > & so wasnt much put off by the discrepancy all
> along
> > the way
> > for the better part of a mile
> >
> > that is
> > not until i reached & began beating the bushes
> thruout
> > what i took to be the correct target area
> >
> > for there i found no boundary mark or sign or
> trace of
> > any kind
> >
> >
> > at first i supposed i just may have lost my
> bearings &
> > my way
> >
> > for i know this can so easily happen on such an
> > overcast day as it was
> >
> > but a subsequent study of the topo has convinced
> me
> > all the topography was exactly as i had expected &
> > indeed correctly found it to be
> >
> >
> > so my puzzlement at not finding a marker where
> > expected
> > even if diminished by the crudity & dubiousness of
> my
> > technique
> > was & remains great
> >
> > in fairly open woods with visibility of 100 or
> perhaps
> > even 200 feet
> > i am fairly confident there was at least no
> standard
> > chest high footsquare concrete 1909 marker
> anywhere in
> > sight
> > tho it is true i could have missed a lower & less
> > massive 1860 model
> >
> > indeed that is what i am hoping was in fact the
> case
> > & so am preparing to revisit at the next
> opportunity
> > with topo & gps in hand
> >
> >
> > but in the meantime i should probably also add
> before
> > signing off for a while on this entire topic & try
> > that i was also diligent enough while still en
> route
> > there to drive past & check out the only other
> known
> > location on ctny where the usgs indicates a
> numbered
> > marker
> >
>
http://topozone.com/map.asp?z=18&n=4635761&e=624341&s=25&size=l&datum=nad83&
> > layer=DRG25
> > & found it similarly elusive at nearly as close
> range
> > in an open meadow
> >
> > this suggests further that both of these numbered
> > markers are at least not of the highly visible
> 1909
> > persuasion
> > & to that extent they are the more likely to
> actually
> > be 1860 jobbies
>
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