Subject: able was unable etc
Date: Feb 22, 2006 @ 07:36
Author: aletheia kallos (aletheia kallos <aletheiak@...>)
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> Too bad, Mr. Multiple Personalities....=== message truncated ===
>
> Many people have left Boundary Point for the safe
> harbour of Border
> Point for one reason: YOU!
>
> There is no reason that your silliness should ruin
> this group.
>
> And why, Michael, would you have to create fake
> personalities to post
> here. There was never a Donner ban.
>
> Go away. You and your fake personalities are not
> welcome.
>
>
>
>
> jim van dura wrote:
> > hahaha
> > well it looks like jimi & mmvi have both been
> canned
> > from borderpoint
> > tho it is unclear yet whether it was for taste or
> > content or behaviour
> >
> > or hopefully some combination of all 3
> >
> > but here below
> > following the automatic notification
> > is the rejected post
> > so you can be the judge
> >
> > be aware tho
> > any multipointing implications in all this are
> purely
> > incidental
> > & would only involve the terminal tripoints of
> this
> > new eez boundary in any case
> > with everyones land in both cases
> >
> > dkelnon & dkelnos respectively
> > from top to bottom
> >
> >
> > farewell & best wishes to all there
> >
> > & thanx to all here for being here in any case
> >
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> > > Date: 21 Feb 2006 22:10:56 -0000
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> > > > Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 14:10:55 -0800 (PST)
> > > From: jim van dura <jimvandura@...>
> > > Subject: Re: [borderpoint] Re: DKNO signed today
> > > To: borderpoint@yahoogroups.com
> >
> >
> > > Right, and by that definition the continental
> shelf
> > > includes the entire EEZ, so, generally, every
> UNLOS
> > > "continental shelf boundary" except an
> "extended"
> > > one
> > > is also an EEZ boundary. (Hence the distinction.
> And
> > > you are right about there being a very few
> slight
> > > and
> > > odd exceptions.) Nor, obviously, is this the
> natural
> > > continental shelf UNLOS is talking about here,
> since
> > > THAT begins at the shoreline and only
> occasionally
> > > extends 200nm seaward. In the present case, as
> > > Jesper's map further suggests by its
> blue-to-white
> > > coloration of the seas (and now Peter's too by
> its
> > > gold), the natural continental shelves have
> pretty
> > > much ended before either the EEZ boundary or the
> > > 200nm
> > > limits are reached in this area. (Also, I think
> it
> > > is
> > > clear that any earlier agreement is still in
> full
> > > effect unless specifically changed or revoked.)
> > > Cheers! --Jv
> > >
> > > --- Anton Zeilinger
> <anton_zeilinger@...>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear "Jim",
> > > >
> > > > yes, the inner "limit" of an "extended"
> > > continental
> > > > shelf is the 200
> > > > nm line. But according to Art 76 UNCLOS "the
> > > > continental shelf
> > > > comprises the seabed and subsoil of the
> submarine
> > > > areas that extend
> > > > beyond its territorial sea". Thus the
> continental
> > > > shelf extends from
> > > > the outer line of the territorial sea either
> to
> > > the
> > > > 200 nm or, if
> > > > the circumstances allow it, beyond that. Thus,
> up
> > > > until 200 nm both
> > > > the EEZ (if declared) and the CS exist
> parallel.
> > > >
> > > > One boundary can delimit both, or there can be
> > > > diverging lines (see
> > > > e.g. Australia/PNG in the Torres Strait) or
> just a
> > > > boundary for one
> > > > of the zones (see e.g. UK/France).
> > > >
> > > > Since the signatories to the 1920 convention
> have
> > > > fishing rights off
> > > > Svalbard/Spitsbergen, it is not unreasonable
> to
> > > > assume that they
> > > > might at least be consulted when there is some
> > > kind
> > > > of limitation or
> > > > delimitation of these rights.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Anton
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In borderpoint@yahoogroups.com, jim van
> dura
> > > > <jimvandura@...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi! As the map indicates the 200nm limits,
> this
> > > > could
> > > > > only be an EEZ boundary. (The inner limit of
> an
> > > > > extended continental shelf is the 200nm line
> > > which
> > > > > marks the outer edge of an EEZ. In areas
> like
> > > this
> > > > > where an EEZ is less than 200nm wide since
> it
> > > > > terminates at a boundary with another state,
> > > there
> > > > can
> > > > > be no extended continental shelf claim or
>