or a shortcut to the guide & travel agent anyone
http://www.comeseeegypt.com/midland.htm
--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus" <lgm@w...> wrote:
>
> So, the south-facing side says "Sudan" and the north-facing one says "Egypt."
er how do you figure that
> That seems more consistent with a border marker than with a sign for the
> information of travelers.
>
> Has anyone considered contacting any of the members of the party that visited
> the confluence to ask what they know about the marker or the survey that
> produced it. Perhaps their Egyptian military officer guide told them about it.
> Their names and contact info are on the Confluence site.
>
> Lowell G. McManus
> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "aletheia kallos" <aletheiak@y...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 9:58 PM
> Subject: RE: [BoundaryPoint] Re: EGLYSD class b
>
>
> > no i didnt say al sudan but as sudan
> > which i still say
> >
> > & er figured you guys already knew how to read arabic
> > numerals
> >
> >
> > but now that you mention it
> > maybe this is the 50th in a series then
> > seeing as it is 50 km to exactly nowhere in all 4
> > directions
> >
> > or maybe just a maghreb style billboard proclaiming
> > we arabs split the desert fifty fifty
> >
> > or
> >
> >
> >
> > hmm
> > but if it is the 50th in a series of border markers
> > & such new looking ones at that
> > which we cant rule out
> > we ought to be able to find at least some trace of the
> > agreement that occasioned them
> > wouldnt you think
> >
> >
> > --- Hugh Wallis <hugh@o...> wrote:
> >
> >> According to my Egyptian neighbour the leftmost most
> >> symbol is interpreted
> >> as follows - the circle represents the number 5 and
> >> the dot a 0, thus
> >> together they represent the number 50. There is no
> >> indication of units. As
> >> Aletheiak has said the other symbols in pictures 1
> >> and 3 are MISR which
> >> translates to "Egypt" and in picture 7 AL-SUDAN,
> >> i.e. "The Sudan".
> >>
> >>
> >> _____
> >>
> >> From: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> >> [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com]
> >> On Behalf Of Jesper Nielsen
> >> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 1:19 PM
> >> To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> >> Subject: SV: [BoundaryPoint] Re: EGLYSD class b
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Could this be EGSD demarcation?
> >>
> >> http://www.confluence.org/photo.php?visitid=11575
> >>
> > <http://www.confluence.org/photo.php?visitid=11575&pic=ALL>
> >> &pic=ALL
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Who reads Arabic? Isn't the left symbol
> >> five-something?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jesper
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _____
> >>
> >>
> >> Fra: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> >> [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com] På
> >> vegne af aletheiak
> >> Sendt: 5. januar 2006 07:56
> >> Til: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> >> Emne: [BoundaryPoint] Re: EGLYSD class b
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> & a very sweet dream indeed as well as a brilliant
> >> analysis & synthesis dear
> >> doctor
> >> but off the top of my head
> >> egsd even in the wadi halfa nile salient was last
> >> reported totally
> >> undemarcated as of 1962
> >> per ibs
> >> so your valiantly won trilaterality & tridatum
> >> intersection appears to
> >> evaporate in the
> >> desert
> >>
> >> but hardy & steady as she blows matey for we are
> >> whaling in mirage country
> >> here
> >>
> >> & something seems to be turning up
> >>
> >> yes
> >> per the other ibs
> >> egly has its mediterranean border base at a place
> >> called beacon point
> >> no relation
> >> & was reportedly marked by beacons 206 miles inland
> >> from there
> >>
> >> & this strange note with perhaps a new clue
> >>
> >> on 15dec1937 a commission met & arranged to move
> >> some of the boundary
> >> pillars
> >> westward in order to improve intervisibility & to
> >> delimit the boundary as a
> >> series of
> >> straight lines between beacons instead of the
> >> previous line which followed
> >> the tracks
> >> between the beacons
> >> & 9 extra beacons were erected at this time bringing
> >> the total to 187
> >> & this whole chain of permanent beacons was reported
> >> satisfactorily
> >> completed in a proces
> >> verbale dated 3may1938
> >> which
> >> could well tell us or lead us to the egly datum
> >> if we ever did find an egsd datum
> >> for completing the still elusive intersection &
> >> triangulation you propose
> >>
> >> also & stranger
> >> a whole fresh chain of border arcs mike kaufman & i
> >> missed in our crazy arc
> >> census is
> >> built into egly tho not quite nakedly visible in
> >> here
> >>
> > http://www.law.fsu.edu/library/collection/LimitsinSeas/maps/bs61.html
> >> but thats just for titillation & profits us nothing
> >>
> >>
> >> &
> >> aha
> >> but here in the lysd ibs your point & synthesis are
> >> finally made in earnest
> >> still hypothetically of course but its a warm lead
> >> for it indicates
> >> 23 or 24 miles south of eglysd
> >> lysd appears to be demarcated by 12 boundary beacons
> >>
> >> however no info available on their type or condition
> >>
> >> funny way to put it & unusual circumstance too
> >> but it points toward a lost treaty text & in it
> >> perhaps a lost lysd datum
> >> which
> >> when combined with our more hopefully found egly
> >> datum
> >> completes your proposed trilateral datum cross
> >> artifice by the back door
> >>
> >> of course we still have to track down the one
> >> ordinary egly & this other
> >> mystery lysd treaty
> >> but its a way to proceed
> >> superchallenging as it may seem
> >>
> >> but something better to pursue in daylight i would
> >> think
> >>
> >> so keep on dreamin
> >>
> >> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G.
> >> McManus" <lgm@w...> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > While the EGLYSD tripoint has almost certainly
> >> never been surveyed
> >> according to
> >> > any datum whatsoever, it seems likely that other
> >> segments of the EGLY
> >> meridional
> >> > boundary (farther north) and of EGSD (in the
> >> vicinity of the Nile Valley)
> >> have
> >> > been surveyed and demarcated. Shouldn't the same
> >> datum that was used in
> >> those
> >> > surveys be applied along the whole length of the
> >> respective meridian and
> >> > parallel, since it has already been accepted by
> >> the parties?
> >> >
> >> > I am reminded that it was the ancient Egyptians
> >> who invented surveying to
> >> > reestablish cadastral boundaries when the annual
> >> Nile floods erased
> >> landmarks.
> >> >
> >> > Lowell G. McManus
> >> > Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "aletheia kallos" <aletheiak@y...>
> >> > To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:51 PM
> >> > Subject: RE: [BoundaryPoint] Re: EGLYSD class b
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > nice stuff thanx
> >> > > & please look for quite a few inserts ahead
> >> > >
> >> > > --- Hugh Wallis <hugh@o...> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> >>thus as likely wgs84 as any<<
> >> > >>
> >> > >> definitely won't be WGS84 since that was not in
> >> use
> >> > >> until 1984 (hence the
> >> > >> "84" in its name).
> >> > >
> >> > > hahaha you certainly may disallow me & i knew
> >> dat
> >> > > about 84
> >> > > but i dont infer wgs84 should be ruled out for
> >> that
> >> > > reason
> >> > >
> >>
> > === message truncated ===
> >
> >
> >
> >
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