So, the south-facing side says "Sudan" and the north-facing one says "Egypt."
That seems more consistent with a border marker than with a sign for the
information of travelers.
Has anyone considered contacting any of the members of the party that visited
the confluence to ask what they know about the marker or the survey that
produced it. Perhaps their Egyptian military officer guide told them about it.
Their names and contact info are on the Confluence site.
Lowell G. McManus
Leesville, Louisiana, USA
----- Original Message -----
From: "aletheia kallos" <aletheiak@...>
To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 9:58 PM
Subject: RE: [BoundaryPoint] Re: EGLYSD class b
> no i didnt say al sudan but as sudan
> which i still say
>
> & er figured you guys already knew how to read arabic
> numerals
>
>
> but now that you mention it
> maybe this is the 50th in a series then
> seeing as it is 50 km to exactly nowhere in all 4
> directions
>
> or maybe just a maghreb style billboard proclaiming
> we arabs split the desert fifty fifty
>
> or
>
>
>
> hmm
> but if it is the 50th in a series of border markers
> & such new looking ones at that
> which we cant rule out
> we ought to be able to find at least some trace of the
> agreement that occasioned them
> wouldnt you think
>
>
> --- Hugh Wallis <hugh@...> wrote:
>
>> According to my Egyptian neighbour the leftmost most
>> symbol is interpreted
>> as follows - the circle represents the number 5 and
>> the dot a 0, thus
>> together they represent the number 50. There is no
>> indication of units. As
>> Aletheiak has said the other symbols in pictures 1
>> and 3 are MISR which
>> translates to "Egypt" and in picture 7 AL-SUDAN,
>> i.e. "The Sudan".
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com]
>> On Behalf Of Jesper Nielsen
>> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 1:19 PM
>> To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: SV: [BoundaryPoint] Re: EGLYSD class b
>>
>>
>>
>> Could this be EGSD demarcation?
>>
>> http://www.confluence.org/photo.php?visitid=11575
>>
> <http://www.confluence.org/photo.php?visitid=11575&pic=ALL>
>> &pic=ALL
>>
>>
>>
>> Who reads Arabic? Isn't the left symbol
>> five-something?
>>
>>
>>
>> Jesper
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>>
>> Fra: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
>> [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com] På
>> vegne af aletheiak
>> Sendt: 5. januar 2006 07:56
>> Til: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
>> Emne: [BoundaryPoint] Re: EGLYSD class b
>>
>>
>>
>> & a very sweet dream indeed as well as a brilliant
>> analysis & synthesis dear
>> doctor
>> but off the top of my head
>> egsd even in the wadi halfa nile salient was last
>> reported totally
>> undemarcated as of 1962
>> per ibs
>> so your valiantly won trilaterality & tridatum
>> intersection appears to
>> evaporate in the
>> desert
>>
>> but hardy & steady as she blows matey for we are
>> whaling in mirage country
>> here
>>
>> & something seems to be turning up
>>
>> yes
>> per the other ibs
>> egly has its mediterranean border base at a place
>> called beacon point
>> no relation
>> & was reportedly marked by beacons 206 miles inland
>> from there
>>
>> & this strange note with perhaps a new clue
>>
>> on 15dec1937 a commission met & arranged to move
>> some of the boundary
>> pillars
>> westward in order to improve intervisibility & to
>> delimit the boundary as a
>> series of
>> straight lines between beacons instead of the
>> previous line which followed
>> the tracks
>> between the beacons
>> & 9 extra beacons were erected at this time bringing
>> the total to 187
>> & this whole chain of permanent beacons was reported
>> satisfactorily
>> completed in a proces
>> verbale dated 3may1938
>> which
>> could well tell us or lead us to the egly datum
>> if we ever did find an egsd datum
>> for completing the still elusive intersection &
>> triangulation you propose
>>
>> also & stranger
>> a whole fresh chain of border arcs mike kaufman & i
>> missed in our crazy arc
>> census is
>> built into egly tho not quite nakedly visible in
>> here
>>
> http://www.law.fsu.edu/library/collection/LimitsinSeas/maps/bs61.html
>> but thats just for titillation & profits us nothing
>>
>>
>> &
>> aha
>> but here in the lysd ibs your point & synthesis are
>> finally made in earnest
>> still hypothetically of course but its a warm lead
>> for it indicates
>> 23 or 24 miles south of eglysd
>> lysd appears to be demarcated by 12 boundary beacons
>>
>> however no info available on their type or condition
>>
>> funny way to put it & unusual circumstance too
>> but it points toward a lost treaty text & in it
>> perhaps a lost lysd datum
>> which
>> when combined with our more hopefully found egly
>> datum
>> completes your proposed trilateral datum cross
>> artifice by the back door
>>
>> of course we still have to track down the one
>> ordinary egly & this other
>> mystery lysd treaty
>> but its a way to proceed
>> superchallenging as it may seem
>>
>> but something better to pursue in daylight i would
>> think
>>
>> so keep on dreamin
>>
>> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G.
>> McManus" <lgm@w...> wrote:
>> >
>> > While the EGLYSD tripoint has almost certainly
>> never been surveyed
>> according to
>> > any datum whatsoever, it seems likely that other
>> segments of the EGLY
>> meridional
>> > boundary (farther north) and of EGSD (in the
>> vicinity of the Nile Valley)
>> have
>> > been surveyed and demarcated. Shouldn't the same
>> datum that was used in
>> those
>> > surveys be applied along the whole length of the
>> respective meridian and
>> > parallel, since it has already been accepted by
>> the parties?
>> >
>> > I am reminded that it was the ancient Egyptians
>> who invented surveying to
>> > reestablish cadastral boundaries when the annual
>> Nile floods erased
>> landmarks.
>> >
>> > Lowell G. McManus
>> > Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "aletheia kallos" <aletheiak@y...>
>> > To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:51 PM
>> > Subject: RE: [BoundaryPoint] Re: EGLYSD class b
>> >
>> >
>> > > nice stuff thanx
>> > > & please look for quite a few inserts ahead
>> > >
>> > > --- Hugh Wallis <hugh@o...> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> >>thus as likely wgs84 as any<<
>> > >>
>> > >> definitely won't be WGS84 since that was not in
>> use
>> > >> until 1984 (hence the
>> > >> "84" in its name).
>> > >
>> > > hahaha you certainly may disallow me & i knew
>> dat
>> > > about 84
>> > > but i dont infer wgs84 should be ruled out for
>> that
>> > > reason
>> > >
>>
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