whooops
correction is necessary in morning light
tho the celebration can continue
since
a closer examination of the dim geocoordinates on this map
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/africa/sudan_pol00.jpg
& of clearer ones on better maps
has revealed to me that the shape of the condo is not a trapezoid after all
hahaha
& indeed i am happy to say her area has multiplied on my new improved mental map
to incorporate the entire words al wahdah on the above map
barely but fully
& not just to approach the cedilla under the h
or in other words
i pulled too small a sw corner tab off of kurdufan
& should have peeled the condo up at the next meridional cut line to the east
or 3 turn points farther up the line
as well as peeled it up a good deal farther due north from there
before tearing it off westward to darfur
but besides the shape & size change
this correction places the new eastern tripoint not on the bahr al arab at all
as i claimed in darkness last night
but out in the blank space at this extant state line turnpoint just east of the word wahdah
or at least that is the closest i can make it out
subject to further verification & precision
so
evidently
not necessarily a new boundary point
but a virgin tripoint nonetheless
& that much harder to find
& i should probably also clarify in morning light
that
leaving novel codes aside
& assuming south sudan is ss & north sudan or rump sudan is still sd
then these 2 new northsouth condo tripoints are already now legally
whatever else they may be
sd2sdsdssssw & sd2sdsdsssse respectively
the pure virgin being the latter
--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "aletheiak" <aletheiak@y...> wrote:
>
> this was message 18471 of about 6 weeks ago
> seeking a map of the territory & especially the tripoints of the
> new sudanese north south condo of the 9 ngok dinka kingdoms
> which also straddles the fault line as both fulcrum & emblem of that countrys seemingly
> imminent breakup
>
> following the text
> which may be worth a browse on the way down
> is todays happy sequel
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "aletheiak" <aletheiak@y...> wrote:
> >
> > ok this is getting interesting
> >
> > here is not only legal confirmation of the 2 future tripoints i had til now only surmised
> > to whatever extent this future may be predictable
> > but also evidence of a hitherto unnoticed but presently real north south condominium
> > & possibly even a steer toward locating its surprise bonus condo tripoints too
> > http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/rwb.nsf/db900SID/SZIE-5ZJR4Z?OpenDocument
> >
> > for evidently all that is needed for this is a map of the mentioned 9 ngok dinka
> chiefdoms
> > seeing as they are all now officially in 2 places at once
> > straddling the divide between north & south
> >
> > according to this recent comment
> > http://www.sudaneseonline.com/earticle2005/oct5-50593.shtml
> > the boundary demarcation process of the condo territory has already been finalized
> >
> > so
> > can anyone find or point the way to an official or even an unofficial map of it
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, aletheia kallos <aletheiak@y...> wrote:
> > > notwithstanding the many pitfalls inherent in deep
> > > crystal ball gazing
> > > first
> > > an expert opinion
> > > http://www.pinr.com/report.php?ac=view_report&report_id=376&language_id=1
> > > namely
> > > that there is already a high likelihood that in 4
> > > years the south of sudan aka ss will vote to separate
> > > from the rest of the present sudan aka sd
> > > as allowed by the recent peace agreement
> > >
> > > second
> > > the historic & effective north south boundary
> > > in bold yellow line here
> > > http://www.sudanreeves.org/modules.php?
> > op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=7&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
> > >
> > > third
> > > for combination with & extrapolation from the above
> > > map
> > > a map of the existing 26 states of sudan & all their
> > > boundaries
> > > revealing exactly how & where the southernmost 10
> > > states can be expected to flake off from the
> > > northermost 16
> > > http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/africa/sudan_pol00.jpg
> > > producing 2 new world class tripoints
> > > namely
> > > in the west
> > > with the resulting rump sudan & the central african
> > > republic
> > > the putative cdsdss
> > > at the present trijunction of the south or janub
> > > darfur state
> > > & the west or gharb bahr al ghazal state
> > > with haute kotto prefecture of caf
> > > aka cfsd2hksdwb
> > > &
> > > in the east
> > > with the rump sudan & ethiopia
> > > the putative etsdss
> > > at the present tristate point of
> > > the blue nile or an nil al azraq state
> > > & the upper nile or a ali an nil state
> > > with the ethiopian state of beni shangul
> > > aka etsd2bebnun
> > >
> > > fourth
> > > endeavoring to zoom in further
> > > the former point falls roughly at center here
> > > http://multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?
> >
>
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> >
>
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> >
>
osel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&zm=0&scale=4000000&multimap.x=246&multim
> > ap.y=181
> > > slightly west of midway between jebel manda & mont
> > > abourassein
> > > & the latter point falls roughly at center here
> > > http://multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?
> >
>
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> >
>
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> > osel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&zm=0&out.x=8&out.y=6&scale=1000000
> > > wnw of beigi & nne of daga post
> > >
> > > still more zooming reveals both are in extremely
> > > remote desert areas
> > > if nearest to the villages of azraq sudan & chesar
> > > ethiopia respectively
> > >
> > > & it is hard to imagine getting any closer to them in
> > > 4 years than we already are now
> > > at about 20 km of blank space from these closest known
> > > features
> > > & no known pix available even of these
> > >
> > > however
> > > not to worry if you were thinking of placing a
> > > tripoint sweepstakes bet
> > > for since so much else could also happen in the next 4
> > > years
> > > the odds are still rather heavily stacked against
> > > south sudan becoming the worlds very next new country
> > > & against these tripoints becoming the very next to
> > > join the world class
> > >
> > > in fact i would still give 10 to 1 against any of the
> > > above
> > > so maybe thats a good buy
> > > or even money for it to happen by the end of 2010 in
> > > any case
> > > which could be a real steal
>
>
>
> well anyway
> to return to the condo & tripoints
> tho i cant in fact offer myself or ourselves any map yet
> the tantamount of it is now available
>
> a verbal description in todays news sufficient to superimpose it all onto the map of
sudan
> http://www.sudaneseonline.com/earticle2005/nov22-64940.shtml
>
> which i can simplify & give directly by saying it is a trapezoid in the sw corner of the
gharb
> khurdufan state shown here
> http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/africa/sudan_pol00.jpg
> that projects the eastern edge of that states southern tab northward along e29d32m15s
> as far as n10d22m30s
> which it then follows westward to close at the darfur state line
>
> or in other words its ne corner almost kisses the cedilla under wahdah
>
> so voila & bravo
>
>
> & so the new north south condo tripoints are
> in the west
> the sw corner of both said state & trapezoid
> aka the existing triregional & tristate point with states of darfur & bahr al ghazal
> specifically sd2nbsdwk
> or north bahr & south darfur & west khurdufan familiarly
> but in the east there is not an extant tripoint to land upon
> so a totally new one is born
> at the point where the bahr al arab leaves khurdufan
>
> so 3 cheers & general rejoicing for the worlds newest condo & her 2 tripoints
> & their awesome but true & indeed worlds first cardinal pentamonoglyphs
> the exceptional nnssw & nnsse respectively
>
>
>
> why
>
> because we can
>