this was message 18471 of about 6 weeks ago
seeking a map of the territory & especially the tripoints of the
new sudanese north south condo of the 9 ngok dinka kingdoms
which also straddles the fault line as both fulcrum & emblem of that countrys seemingly
imminent breakup
following the text
which may be worth a browse on the way down
is todays happy sequel
--- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "aletheiak" <aletheiak@y...> wrote:
>
> ok this is getting interesting
>
> here is not only legal confirmation of the 2 future tripoints i had til now only surmised
> to whatever extent this future may be predictable
> but also evidence of a hitherto unnoticed but presently real north south condominium
> & possibly even a steer toward locating its surprise bonus condo tripoints too
> http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/rwb.nsf/db900SID/SZIE-5ZJR4Z?OpenDocument
>
> for evidently all that is needed for this is a map of the mentioned 9 ngok dinka
chiefdoms
> seeing as they are all now officially in 2 places at once
> straddling the divide between north & south
>
> according to this recent comment
> http://www.sudaneseonline.com/earticle2005/oct5-50593.shtml
> the boundary demarcation process of the condo territory has already been finalized
>
> so
> can anyone find or point the way to an official or even an unofficial map of it
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, aletheia kallos <aletheiak@y...> wrote:
> > notwithstanding the many pitfalls inherent in deep
> > crystal ball gazing
> > first
> > an expert opinion
> > http://www.pinr.com/report.php?ac=view_report&report_id=376&language_id=1
> > namely
> > that there is already a high likelihood that in 4
> > years the south of sudan aka ss will vote to separate
> > from the rest of the present sudan aka sd
> > as allowed by the recent peace agreement
> >
> > second
> > the historic & effective north south boundary
> > in bold yellow line here
> > http://www.sudanreeves.org/modules.php?
> op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=7&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
> >
> > third
> > for combination with & extrapolation from the above
> > map
> > a map of the existing 26 states of sudan & all their
> > boundaries
> > revealing exactly how & where the southernmost 10
> > states can be expected to flake off from the
> > northermost 16
> > http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/africa/sudan_pol00.jpg
> > producing 2 new world class tripoints
> > namely
> > in the west
> > with the resulting rump sudan & the central african
> > republic
> > the putative cdsdss
> > at the present trijunction of the south or janub
> > darfur state
> > & the west or gharb bahr al ghazal state
> > with haute kotto prefecture of caf
> > aka cfsd2hksdwb
> > &
> > in the east
> > with the rump sudan & ethiopia
> > the putative etsdss
> > at the present tristate point of
> > the blue nile or an nil al azraq state
> > & the upper nile or a ali an nil state
> > with the ethiopian state of beni shangul
> > aka etsd2bebnun
> >
> > fourth
> > endeavoring to zoom in further
> > the former point falls roughly at center here
> > http://multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?
>
client=public&X=2700000&Y=1000000&width=500&height=300&gride=&gridn=&srec=0
>
&coordsys=mercator&db=w3&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinf
>
osel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&zm=0&scale=4000000&multimap.x=246&multim
> ap.y=181
> > slightly west of midway between jebel manda & mont
> > abourassein
> > & the latter point falls roughly at center here
> > http://multimap.com/map/browse.cgi?
>
client=public&X=3800000&Y=1050000&width=500&height=300&gride=&gridn=&srec=0
>
&coordsys=mercator&db=w3&addr1=&addr2=&addr3=&pc=&advanced=&local=&localinf
> osel=&kw=&inmap=&table=&ovtype=&zm=0&out.x=8&out.y=6&scale=1000000
> > wnw of beigi & nne of daga post
> >
> > still more zooming reveals both are in extremely
> > remote desert areas
> > if nearest to the villages of azraq sudan & chesar
> > ethiopia respectively
> >
> > & it is hard to imagine getting any closer to them in
> > 4 years than we already are now
> > at about 20 km of blank space from these closest known
> > features
> > & no known pix available even of these
> >
> > however
> > not to worry if you were thinking of placing a
> > tripoint sweepstakes bet
> > for since so much else could also happen in the next 4
> > years
> > the odds are still rather heavily stacked against
> > south sudan becoming the worlds very next new country
> > & against these tripoints becoming the very next to
> > join the world class
> >
> > in fact i would still give 10 to 1 against any of the
> > above
> > so maybe thats a good buy
> > or even money for it to happen by the end of 2010 in
> > any case
> > which could be a real steal
well anyway
to return to the condo & tripoints
tho i cant in fact offer myself or ourselves any map yet
the tantamount of it is now available
a verbal description in todays news sufficient to superimpose it all onto the map of sudan
http://www.sudaneseonline.com/earticle2005/nov22-64940.shtml
which i can simplify & give directly by saying it is a trapezoid in the sw corner of the gharb
khurdufan state shown here
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/africa/sudan_pol00.jpg
that projects the eastern edge of that states southern tab northward along e29d32m15s
as far as n10d22m30s
which it then follows westward to close at the darfur state line
or in other words its ne corner almost kisses the cedilla under wahdah
so voila & bravo
& so the new north south condo tripoints are
in the west
the sw corner of both said state & trapezoid
aka the existing triregional & tristate point with states of darfur & bahr al ghazal
specifically sd2nbsdwk
or north bahr & south darfur & west khurdufan familiarly
but in the east there is not an extant tripoint to land upon
so a totally new one is born
at the point where the bahr al arab leaves khurdufan
so 3 cheers & general rejoicing for the worlds newest condo & her 2 tripoints
& their awesome but true & indeed worlds first cardinal pentamonoglyphs
the exceptional nnssw & nnsse respectively
why
because we can