Did I ever give reason to believe that I misinterpreted something? Nothing
of what you see as "typical European" was said. In your overheated brain you
appear to read something between the lines that I did not say. I never meant
to sacrifice any freedom; I just know from discussions with many Chinese
that their interpretation of freedom is different from ours. Can it be that
"democracy" and "freedom" the way WE understand just do not rank very high
in their (Taiwanese AND mainland) value list? All I am saying between the
lines is: The U.S. view is not the only one in this world. Actually you
represent a fairly insignificant bunch of people, number-wise. You also did
not have to tell the world much so far, in your meagre 200 or so years, all
compared against the Chinese history; we should therefore not do as if WE
could tell the Chinese what is right or wrong.
Wolfgang
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von:
BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:
BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von Lowell G. McManus
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. November 2005 19:34
An:
BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: Re: [BoundaryPoint] new russia belarus union could scratch
bylvru & byruua from world class by next year
I think that you misinterpret the US "One China" policy. It is purposely
very
vague. The PRC claims Taiwan, but the ROC claims the mainland as well. It
is
US policy that the Chinese resolve their differences peacefully in an
unspecified manner, not that Taiwan be joined to the PRC or that the
mainland be
joined to the ROC. The practical reason for the "One China" policy was as a
way
to artificially paper over our differences with the PRC and to ingratiate
ourselves into a trade relationships with it. It is purposely ambiguous
enough
to allow the PRC to continue to claim that Taiwan is a renegade province,
even
as the US warns that it will protect Taiwan against military aggression from
the
mainland. That warning is what has kept Taiwan free this long.
What seemed so "typically European" to me about your earlier message was:
(1)
the suggestion that freedom could be sacrificed for cultural unity; and (2)
the
notion that economic progress is equal to democracy. If Americans believed
those things, we'd still belong to Britain, and they'd still be taxing our
tea!
Lowell G. McManus
Leesville, Louisiana, USA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wolfgang Schaub" <Wolfgang.Schaub@...>
To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:39 AM
Subject: AW: [BoundaryPoint] new russia belarus union could scratch bylvru &
byruua from world class by next year
> Bush: US supports 'one-China' policy
>
> Copied in from Reuters (2005-11-17)
>
> KYOTO, Japan - US President George W. Bush reiterated on Wednesday that
> Washington supported a "one-China policy" and said that Beijing and Taipei
> should settle their differences peacefully. Bush is on a week-long,
> four-nation Asian tour that will also take him to China, South Korea and
> Mongolia.
>
> He made the remarks at a joint news conference with his close ally, Prime
> Minister Junichiro Koizumi, following talks with the Japanese leader.
>
> He said the one-China policy remains unchanged. "It is based on the three
> communiques, the Taiwan Relations Act and our belief that there should be
no
> unilateral attempts to change the status quo by either side."
>
> Bush said the US will continue to stress the need for a dialogue between
the
> Chinese mainland and Taiwan "that leads to a peaceful resolution of their
> differences."
>
> So what? George Dubbya "typical European"?
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von Lowell G. McManus
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. November 2005 18:08
> An: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: Re: [BoundaryPoint] new russia belarus union could scratch
> bylvru & byruua from world class by next year
>
>
> Typical European view of reality!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wolfgang Schaub" <Wolfgang.Schaub@...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:47 AM
> Subject: AW: [BoundaryPoint] new russia belarus union could scratch bylvru
&
> byruua from world class by next year
>
>
>> Sorry, this is NOT communist fiction. Culturally Taiwan has always been
> part
>> of China and will silently unite with the P.R. once living conditions in
>> both parts have become identical. Even President Bush thinks the same, if
>> you follow his statements that he made on his recent trip. By the way,
the
>> U.S. will not even be asked whether they agree or not, it just will
> happen.
>> Not in your generation anymore, but who cares in China about one
> generation!
>>
>> Most Chinese in China support economical progress (their form of
> democracy),
>> and this is shared between Taiwan and the mainland. We in the saturated
> West
>> tend to be impressed by the high numbers of reports on tortures and
>> political oppression. If you divide these numbers by 5, in proportion to
> the
>> U.S. population, the picture does not differ greatly from what you see in
>> your own country if you just ask the underprivileged.
>>
>> This is not meant to be a political statement. Just arithmetics and
>> historical lessons extrapolated. It has nothing to do with tripoints
> either,
>> I know, so aletheiak does not need to spend his valuable time to comment.
>>
>> Wolfgang
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