Subject: Re: Bits and Pieces
Date: Mar 21, 2001 @ 13:34
Author: peter.smaardijk@and.com (peter.smaardijk@...)
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--- In BoundaryPoint@y..., Arif Samad <fHoiberg@y...> wrote:
> I will be touching on a few subjects.
> First of all, have you guys checked up on the size of
> Zubara and associated land that Bahrain claimed on
> Qatar on map 2. This would have almost doubled the
> area of Bahrain.

It came as a surprise to me.

The situation in Arabia is almost
> always due to differing concepts of sovereignty from
> the muslim and western perspectives and causes the
> mess.

Could you elaborate on that?

> Secondly, we really need to see the Namibia island
> maps from the book "Walvis Bay" to understand what the
> situation was (if the map is correct). It isn't as
> simple as straight baselines and 200 mile limits.
> Thirdly, I am collecting "virtual" enclaves where a
> country owns or owned a piece of territory in a
> different land but not sovereignty. Obviously, I
> could include many embassies, but that would make the
> list too big and I am ignoring them. But the source
> of Seine virtual enclave is first I have seen in the
> state level if it happens to be just ownership by
> Paris. Does anybody know of a place where I can
> research whether the source is a virtual or real
> enclave or not.

Well, the churches and offices of the Holy See outside of Vatican
City can possibly be considered as 'virtual' enclaves. See the
Lateran Treaty, art. 13 to 16:
http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/treaty.htm

There are other provisions in the treaty besides the question of mere
ownership. This is what makes them interesting. When talking of
ownership, you could say that every Roman Catholic church is
a 'virtual' enclave of Vatican City. But that is a bit like including
every embassy.

Peter S.