Subject: Re: ellicott mound prospects in louisiana
Date: Oct 09, 2005 @ 17:39
Author: aletheiak ("aletheiak" <aletheiak@...>)
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> Thanks for the tip.
>
> I read somewhere during the past week that Ellicott's original mounds were 15
> feet square, three feet high, and had a charred wooden post in the center.
>
> There was also a 1980 reprint of Ellicott's journal by Arno Books.
>
> Two libraries within easy driving distance of where I sit have Ellicott's
> journal. Northwestern State University and Louisiana State University at
> Alexandria have what is shown in their on-line catalogs as the 1803 edition,
> while the former also has the 1962 Quadrangle Books reprint.
>
> I will endeavor to visit one or the other this week and report back.
>
> Lowell G. McManus
> Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "aletheiak" <aletheiak@y...>
> To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 11:16 PM
> Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: ellicott mound prospects in louisiana
>
>
> > lowell
> > i just realized from a discussion found a bit more than halfway down this page
> > http://robertoreg.blogspot.com/2003_07_20_robertoreg_archive.html
> > that the ellicott mounds on alfl are in fact larger & easier to find than
> > anywhere else
> > because the 1853 retracement of alfl by whitmer mentioned in bus&ss actually
> > enlarged &
> > reshaped them all into cardinal crosses
> > like the one i found & described in the field report linked below
> >
> > this may partly explain why there are no known recoveries of ellicott mounds
> > yet on lams
> > notwithstanding the several on alfl
> > & it suggests that your quest for one on lams may actually be more difficult
> > than it would
> > have been on alfl
> >
> > so it might be a good idea to find a copy of ellicotts 1814 journal
> > as partially cited in the bus&ss bibligraphy
> > which includes fairly detailed maps of all the mound locations
> > as may its 1962 reprint also
> >
> > full citation is here at bottom
> > http://www.dean.usma.edu/math/people/rickey/dms/DeptHeads/Ellicott-mine.html
> >
> >
> > --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "aletheiak" <aletheiak@y...> wrote:
> >>
> >> ok fantastic
> >> & please feel entirely free to be the first to bail me out of my predicament
> >>
> >> most of my 17 topozone generated prospects are in the felicianas
> >> but i cant say which are most likely
> >>
> >> i would say they are about as tall as a texan & quite massive if they are
> >> still all there
> >>
> >> there is still a pic of a somewhat eroded one
> >> probably on alfl tho
> >> linked to
> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/8454
> >> & a verbal description of another probably grander one on alfl about a third
> >> of the way
> >> down this field report
> >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/9185
> >>
> >> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus"
> >> wrote:
> >> > I don't know of any 1799 Ellicott mounds on LAMS, but I've never been a
> >> > huge
> >> > student of that particular one of my state's boundary segments. If he left
> >> > one
> >> > per mile, surely at least one of the slightly more than 100 should survive.
> >> >
> >> > I'm willing to give this some attention when I get caught up
> >> > post-hurricane.
> >> > Unless you want to reserve the quest for yourself, I'd even be willing to
> >> > undertake an expedition to a few of the most likely of your 17 prospects.
> >> > Just
> >> > how big are these mounds supposed to be, anyway?
> >> >
> >> > Lowell G. McManus
> >> > Leesville, Louisiana, USA
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "aletheia kallos" <aletheiak@y...>
> >> > To: <boundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
> >> > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 11:34 AM
> >> > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] ellicott mound prospects in louisiana
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > now that i have shot my mouth off about louisiana
> >> > > still having some 18th century earthen mounds on the
> >> > > lams state line that were once esus international
> >> > > boundary markers
> >> > > to go along with her 1 remaining 19th century latx
> >> > > rock
> >> > > it occurs to me i may well be called upon to
> >> > > substantiate this claim
> >> > >
> >> > > which i cant yet
> >> > >
> >> > > i have visited several & learned of several others of
> >> > > these 1799 ellicott mounds that still mark the alfl
> >> > > state line
> >> > > & yikes i have just recalled another famous one on
> >> > > flga
> >> > > so i must add georgia to the distinguised fraternity
> >> > > of the international border convergency of the the
> >> > > deep south i mentioned to david
> >> > >
> >> > > ga fl al ms la tx
> >> > >
> >> > > but the point is i have no idea if an ellicott mound
> >> > > will ever actually be found on lams
> >> > > hahahaha
> >> > >
> >> > > i have seen ellicotts field notes showing that he left
> >> > > them at roughly 1 mile intervals all the way from the
> >> > > mississippi to the chattahoochee
> >> > >
> >> > > in fact he is known to have begun with that sector &
> >> > > to have proceeded west to east on it
> >> > > so
> >> > > the oldest international boundary marker in america
> >> > > if one wanted to add the distinction of greatest age
> >> > > to such a quest
> >> > > will be the nearest one to ellicotts initial point
> >> > > presumably near modern lams2cowewi on the mississippi
> >> > > aka the concordia west feliciana wilkinson tertiary
> >> > > tripoint
> >> > >
> >> > > & i have found 17 promising elevation locations that
> >> > > are marked squarely on the lams state line by usgs
> >> > > topography
> >> > > the nearest to cowewi being so far happily just out of
> >> > > range of angola
> >> > > but of course any of these 17 prospects that would be
> >> > > so good as to actually pan out would do me just fine
> >> > >
> >> > > the especial delicacy of the situation tho is that the
> >> > > bus&ss bible doesnt even mention that this part of the
> >> > > lams state line was ever retraced & remarked
> >> > > as it states the alfl part of ellicotts mound line was
> >> > > in 1853
> >> > >
> >> > > so for this reason
> >> > > & also in view of the fact that the mound line
> >> > > perfectly coincides with the well marked public land
> >> > > survey base line
> >> > > i expect to find no other lams markers anywhere than
> >> > > just federal corner pins & whatever is left of the
> >> > > original earthen mounds
> >> > > if anything
> >> > >
> >> > > but any harder evidence or leads than just these
> >> > > inchoate gropings of mine would be much appreciated in
> >> > > the meantime