Thanks for the tip.
I read somewhere during the past week that Ellicott's original mounds were 15
feet square, three feet high, and had a charred wooden post in the center.
There was also a 1980 reprint of Ellicott's journal by Arno Books.
Two libraries within easy driving distance of where I sit have Ellicott's
journal. Northwestern State University and Louisiana State University at
Alexandria have what is shown in their on-line catalogs as the 1803 edition,
while the former also has the 1962 Quadrangle Books reprint.
I will endeavor to visit one or the other this week and report back.
Lowell G. McManus
Leesville, Louisiana, USA
----- Original Message -----
From: "aletheiak" <aletheiak@...>
To: <BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 11:16 PM
Subject: [BoundaryPoint] Re: ellicott mound prospects in louisiana
> lowell
> i just realized from a discussion found a bit more than halfway down this page
> http://robertoreg.blogspot.com/2003_07_20_robertoreg_archive.html
> that the ellicott mounds on alfl are in fact larger & easier to find than
> anywhere else
> because the 1853 retracement of alfl by whitmer mentioned in bus&ss actually
> enlarged &
> reshaped them all into cardinal crosses
> like the one i found & described in the field report linked below
>
> this may partly explain why there are no known recoveries of ellicott mounds
> yet on lams
> notwithstanding the several on alfl
> & it suggests that your quest for one on lams may actually be more difficult
> than it would
> have been on alfl
>
> so it might be a good idea to find a copy of ellicotts 1814 journal
> as partially cited in the bus&ss bibligraphy
> which includes fairly detailed maps of all the mound locations
> as may its 1962 reprint also
>
> full citation is here at bottom
> http://www.dean.usma.edu/math/people/rickey/dms/DeptHeads/Ellicott-mine.html
>
>
> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "aletheiak" <aletheiak@y...> wrote:
>>
>> ok fantastic
>> & please feel entirely free to be the first to bail me out of my predicament
>>
>> most of my 17 topozone generated prospects are in the felicianas
>> but i cant say which are most likely
>>
>> i would say they are about as tall as a texan & quite massive if they are
>> still all there
>>
>> there is still a pic of a somewhat eroded one
>> probably on alfl tho
>> linked to
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/8454
>> & a verbal description of another probably grander one on alfl about a third
>> of the way
>> down this field report
>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BoundaryPoint/message/9185
>>
>> --- In BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com, "Lowell G. McManus" <mcmanus71496@m...>
>> wrote:
>> > I don't know of any 1799 Ellicott mounds on LAMS, but I've never been a
>> > huge
>> > student of that particular one of my state's boundary segments. If he left
>> > one
>> > per mile, surely at least one of the slightly more than 100 should survive.
>> >
>> > I'm willing to give this some attention when I get caught up
>> > post-hurricane.
>> > Unless you want to reserve the quest for yourself, I'd even be willing to
>> > undertake an expedition to a few of the most likely of your 17 prospects.
>> > Just
>> > how big are these mounds supposed to be, anyway?
>> >
>> > Lowell G. McManus
>> > Leesville, Louisiana, USA
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "aletheia kallos" <aletheiak@y...>
>> > To: <boundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com>
>> > Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 11:34 AM
>> > Subject: [BoundaryPoint] ellicott mound prospects in louisiana
>> >
>> >
>> > > now that i have shot my mouth off about louisiana
>> > > still having some 18th century earthen mounds on the
>> > > lams state line that were once esus international
>> > > boundary markers
>> > > to go along with her 1 remaining 19th century latx
>> > > rock
>> > > it occurs to me i may well be called upon to
>> > > substantiate this claim
>> > >
>> > > which i cant yet
>> > >
>> > > i have visited several & learned of several others of
>> > > these 1799 ellicott mounds that still mark the alfl
>> > > state line
>> > > & yikes i have just recalled another famous one on
>> > > flga
>> > > so i must add georgia to the distinguised fraternity
>> > > of the international border convergency of the the
>> > > deep south i mentioned to david
>> > >
>> > > ga fl al ms la tx
>> > >
>> > > but the point is i have no idea if an ellicott mound
>> > > will ever actually be found on lams
>> > > hahahaha
>> > >
>> > > i have seen ellicotts field notes showing that he left
>> > > them at roughly 1 mile intervals all the way from the
>> > > mississippi to the chattahoochee
>> > >
>> > > in fact he is known to have begun with that sector &
>> > > to have proceeded west to east on it
>> > > so
>> > > the oldest international boundary marker in america
>> > > if one wanted to add the distinction of greatest age
>> > > to such a quest
>> > > will be the nearest one to ellicotts initial point
>> > > presumably near modern lams2cowewi on the mississippi
>> > > aka the concordia west feliciana wilkinson tertiary
>> > > tripoint
>> > >
>> > > & i have found 17 promising elevation locations that
>> > > are marked squarely on the lams state line by usgs
>> > > topography
>> > > the nearest to cowewi being so far happily just out of
>> > > range of angola
>> > > but of course any of these 17 prospects that would be
>> > > so good as to actually pan out would do me just fine
>> > >
>> > > the especial delicacy of the situation tho is that the
>> > > bus&ss bible doesnt even mention that this part of the
>> > > lams state line was ever retraced & remarked
>> > > as it states the alfl part of ellicotts mound line was
>> > > in 1853
>> > >
>> > > so for this reason
>> > > & also in view of the fact that the mound line
>> > > perfectly coincides with the well marked public land
>> > > survey base line
>> > > i expect to find no other lams markers anywhere than
>> > > just federal corner pins & whatever is left of the
>> > > original earthen mounds
>> > > if anything
>> > >
>> > > but any harder evidence or leads than just these
>> > > inchoate gropings of mine would be much appreciated in
>> > > the meantime
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