--- Hugh Wallis <hugh@...> wrote:

> I think you just said the same as what I said when I
> said "When I reached
> the appropriate spot on the road I searched around
> for any kind of marker
> some distance either side of the road but was unable
> to locate one. What I
> did locate was all on the road itself. From these
> conflicting pieces of
> evidence it is is not possible, therefore, to
> determine accurately exactly
> where the tripoint is located."

whoops
misunderstanding in process
for i didnt mean some distance in either direction
generally
but rather
specifically
in accordance with this best available map
http://www.larioja.org/sig/imagenes/5000/25tp2927.gif
unless i am misreading it or misinterpreting some of
the other data
between 110 & 137 meters up the bank & thru those
lovely woods
on a bearing somewhere between n13w & n39w from the
roadstone

or
averaging these ranges for starters & ease &
simplicity
make that about 124 meters bearing about n26w from the
roadstone
& only then fanning out & beating the bushes if
necessary for 15 or 20 meters in all directions

alternatively
get a gps fix on the target point directly from this
map if possible
but i think you might still have to beat the bushes in
that case too
so there might not be any advantage to doing it that
way

nor do i think it would just be a matter of luck but
of technique first & perhaps then luck too

but in any case you fully deserve our highest congrats
& thanx for having made this try at es2arcllo &
posting this beautiful report
which was the first known one of its kind in & indeed
from spain
as well as for your evidently luckier hit at es2arcala
just down the road
also the first of its kind

> Maybe someone else will have better luck, if indeed
> there is another
> physical marker in existence that I could not find.
>
>
> _____
>
> From: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of aletheia kallos
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 2:35 AM
> To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [BoundaryPoint] RE: [borderpoint] Re:
> Spanish provincial
> tripoint marker... or not
>
>
> understood but official map evidence generally
> trumps
> all other data
> unless it is proved wrong by onsite investigation
> or by better official data
> such as the legal text etc
>
> it is clear you have a tripoint indicator of some
> sort
> there
> just as peter & jim supposed in the part of the
> message that has been truncated below
> for i dont think that was ever very seriously in
> question
>
> nor are indirect & or ceremonial markers terribly
> rare
> for that matter
>
> but it isnt at all clear that you have
> t h e
> official
> direct
> onsite
> tripoint
> mojon
>
> for that to be clear
> or to even become a reasonable inference or
> plausible
> guess
> the tripoint position precisely indicated on the
> best
> available maps still needs to be checked &
> positively
> eliminated
>
> --- Hugh Wallis <hugh@...> wrote:
>
> > >>the fact that the railway is abandoned doesnt at
> > all
> > necessarily mean that the legal position of the
> > tripoint adjacent to the railway & shown on the
> best
> > available & current official maps has also been
> > abandoned with it<<
> >
> > That was just a casual comment for informational
> > purposes - it was not
> > intended that any inference about the tripoint
> > should be drawn from it
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Hugh
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of aletheia kallos
> > Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 9:46 PM
> > To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [BoundaryPoint] RE: [borderpoint] Re:
> > Spanish provincial
> > tripoint marker... or not
> >
> >
> > bravissimos & vivas from me too hugh
> >
> > & i agree you must have arcala the second one
> right
> > & that jimmy is confused
> > but i also agree with him about arcllo the first
> one
> >
> > because
> > the fact that the railway is abandoned doesnt at
> all
> > necessarily mean that the legal position of the
> > tripoint adjacent to the railway & shown on the
> best
> > available & current official maps has also been
> > abandoned with it
> >
> > --- Hugh Wallis <hugh@...> wrote:
> >
> > > The mojon I photoed is the same one that is
> > pictured
> > > at
> > >
> >
>

http://www.albaiges.com/historia/historiatresreyes.htm

> > > so I don't quite
> > > understand the comment about the "third" (unless
> > you
> > > are referring to the
> > > second one on my web page - but that is at a
> > > different tripoint).
> > >
> > > I searched around on both sides of the road for
> > > other ones but found
> > > nothing. The railway is abandoned by the way.
> > >
> > > I am in Madrid now so no chance of getting back
> > > there (its about 300km away)
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Hugh
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com]
> > > On Behalf Of jim van dura
> > > Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 8:42 PM
> > > To: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com;
> > > borderpoint@yahoogroups.com
> > > Cc: BoundaryPoint@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [BoundaryPoint] RE: [borderpoint]
> Re:
> > > Spanish provincial
> > > tripoint marker... or not
> > >
> > >
> > > Beautifully done, Hugh! We thought there might
> be
> > > two
> > > mojones, and here you have brought us a third!
> > Nice
> > > to
> > > see they have no sense of direction too! But did
> > you
> > > not try to reach the real mojon also, as shown
> on
> > > Peter's officially authoritative treasure map???
> > Or
> > > are you still in close enough range to double
> back
> > > for
> > > this coup de grace?
> > > Jimmy
> > >
> > > --- Hugh Wallis <hugh@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello Peter and Jimmy
> > > >
> > > > I have visited this tripoint and you can find
> > the
> > > > results of my visit
> > > > documented at http://tinyurl.com/baglc
> > > >
> > > > I have copied this to boundarypoint since I
> have
> > > now
> > > > been reliably informed
> > > > that is the correct place to discuss
> tripointing
> > > and
> > > > I don't want to step on
> > > > people's toes, being new and all :)
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > > Hugh
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _____
> > > >
>

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